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11-10-2019, 10:56 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Houston, TX
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Flap Positioning System
Placing the order for my fuse kit (building this prior to QB wings). What do y?all recommend on the flap positioning sensor option? Seems I recall seeing an aftermarket actuator/positioner option? What does everyone else do with this?
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11-10-2019, 11:01 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
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I had the Show Planes system in our 10-----great product.
I think it is available from Vans.
https://www.showplanes.com/index.php...odshow&ref=FPS
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Rv-10, N210LM.
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Last edited by Mike S : 11-10-2019 at 11:28 AM.
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11-10-2019, 11:12 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Delaware, OH (KDLZ)
Posts: 4,194
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Get the aftermarket unit. It?s more expense, but in my opinion, it?s worth it.
http://www.phaviation.com/
The position sensor is built in, so you don?t have to mess with the Ray Allen unit. The shaft doesn?t rotate like the unit provided by Van?s, which eliminates having to safety wire to prevent turning.
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11-10-2019, 01:55 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Southwest
Posts: 1,108
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Me too
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Originally Posted by rleffler
Get the aftermarket unit. It?s more expense, but in my opinion, it?s worth it.
http://www.phaviation.com/
The position sensor is built in, so you don?t have to mess with the Ray Allen unit. The shaft doesn?t rotate like the unit provided by Van?s, which eliminates having to safety wire to prevent turning.
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Imsecond what Bob says. Besides the position sensor it also has electrical limit switches and no grease issue in the motor.
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11-10-2019, 09:53 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Livermore, CA
Posts: 6,767
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Show Planes system, plus Ray Allan position sensor (displayed on grt efis).
Works fine.
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11-10-2019, 09:57 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Tucson, Az
Posts: 143
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650 Hours total time
I have 650 hours on my RV10 since completion in 2014.
I have the Vans supplied flap actuator and control system.
It has worked perfectly.
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Tucson, Arizona
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RV10 flying since July 2014- 700 hrs as of July 2020
RV6A sold after 500 hours of flying
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11-11-2019, 04:36 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Tampa, FL
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So I?ve gone thru a number if iterations on the whole flap system. As notes above they pretty much all work but take different approaches. I started with the stock motor and a Ray Allen POS-12 position sensor that fed my Vertical Power VP-200 electrical system that had a built-in flap controller. The system worked perfectly. Then my VP-200 died and I had to buy a stand-alone controller and opted for the FPS-Plus system. Unfortunately I?ve had trouble since then with the position sensor. I finally threw in the towel and opted for getting the PHAviation motor vs futzing around with the sensor.
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11-11-2019, 09:13 AM
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Join Date: May 2016
Location: St Albert, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 515
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I think that the POS12 is a pretty simple system overall. I was going to use the PH aviation motor but I wrote the manufacturer and it wasn?t entirely compatible with the VPX Pro so I thought that I would spare the expense and use the stick motor which was already paid for.
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RV10 - QB wings and fuse. Working on cabin top
St. Albert, Alberta, Canada
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11-11-2019, 09:30 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Delaware, OH (KDLZ)
Posts: 4,194
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RandyAB
I think that the POS12 is a pretty simple system overall. I was going to use the PH aviation motor but I wrote the manufacturer and it wasn?t entirely compatible with the VPX Pro so I thought that I would spare the expense and use the stick motor which was already paid for.
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It works just fine with the VPX Pro. I?ve been using with a VPX Pro for over a year and a half.
What do you believe the incompatibility may be?
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11-11-2019, 11:29 AM
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Join Date: May 2016
Location: St Albert, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 515
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rleffler
.......What do you believe the incompatibility may be?
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From Pat at Ph Aviation in response to my query.
?You?ll notice in the flaps section of the VP-X manual it says that actuators with built-in stops don?t work with the VP-X. So, where we have run into a VP-X installation, we recommend running the flaps outside of the VP-X if you want to use our actuator. Of course, the VP-X can do basically the same thing using the feedback potentiometer as ours does with the auto stop. There are many options for flaps control including the GAD 27 if you?re installing a Garmin panel. But the VP-X can do the same thing with the stock flap motor.?
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RV10 - QB wings and fuse. Working on cabin top
St. Albert, Alberta, Canada
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