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03-05-2019, 09:06 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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Not sure what brand of tube came with my kit but I check and replace air yearly at annual inspection. Never had a flat or low tire. Going on my third set of tires over 12 years and 800hrs.
doug
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03-05-2019, 09:11 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Garden City, Tx
Posts: 5,118
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Originally Posted by Walt
Because you can't buy a nose wheel tube that is any good, the fix for that is replace the wheel with something tubeless like the Beringer.
If I had the spare funds/time, I'd replace all the tube/tires with Tubeless Beringer units.
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Got a link for those? You've got my interest now.
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Garden City, TX VAF 2020 dues paid 
N16GN flying 700 hrs and counting; IO360, SDS, WWRV200, Dynon HDX, 430W
Built an off-plan RV9A with too much fuel and too much HP. Should drop dead any minute now.
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03-05-2019, 09:33 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Utah
Posts: 8,144
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I was a big fan of M airstop tubes till I got a bad batch couple years ago. Two brand new tubes went flat within a month. I found a micro crack along the perimeter on both. Likely a long term storage fold. Since then I have good luck with thicker butil tubes I was able to source from SkyGeek. Reusing them second time with new tires. Always carry a spare.
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03-05-2019, 09:37 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Davis, CA
Posts: 1,156
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Quote:
Originally Posted by airguy
Got a link for those? You've got my interest now.
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https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catal...inger5nose.php
https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catal...vfinishing.php
Which I know about only because I suffer from Beringer Wheel Lust. I would love to get rid of the tube type tires on my RV-7. It's about the last wheeled vehicle I own with tubes; even my mountain bikes are tubeless.
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Davis, CA
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03-05-2019, 10:11 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Dallas/Ft Worth, TX
Posts: 5,665
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I usually have the Beringer nose wheels in stock, $425 you pick up!
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RV7A built 2004, 1700+ hrs, New Titan IO-370, Bendix Mags
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03-05-2019, 12:31 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,544
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Same air-stop tubes in my rocket since new in 2006, 1100 hours. I add air once or twice a year. The tires have been replaced a number of times.
I think that even at the higher prices that is pretty good value.
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RV4, RV7, RV10, two HRIIs and five F1 Rockets
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St.Thomas, Ontario Canada, CYQS
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03-05-2019, 04:58 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Highland Village, TX
Posts: 1,519
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13 year old tubes !!
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Originally Posted by Tom Martin
Same air-stop tubes in my rocket since new in 2006, 1100 hours. I add air once or twice a year. The tires have been replaced a number of times.
I think that even at the higher prices that is pretty good value.
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You must be living right. I would have thought that age and dry rot would have put those tubes out to pasture a long time ago.
Maybe I?m ?wasting? money but I replace the tubes every time I change tires. I just wish I bought my Michelin Airstops back in December when I decided it was time for new tires. By the time I got around to buying them last month, it cost me an extra $30 per tube.
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11-04-2019, 09:20 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: santa barbara, CA
Posts: 1,680
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironflight
I’ve been seeing those prices go up as well. Unfortunately, I have never found an alternative to the Michelins that have the same air-holding capability.
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According to Tim at Desser Tire, the secret to the Michelin air-holding capability is that they are made of butyl rubber rather than natural rubber. Desser offers an equivalent butyl rubber tube with the same metal, right-angle valve stem that they manufacture themselves, the AeroClassic Leakguard for $64.53. Or you can stick with the Michelin Airstop at $118.
Here is the link:
https://www.desser.com/pc_product_de...2D1A292CD51162
Erich
Last edited by erich weaver : 11-04-2019 at 05:26 PM.
Reason: spelling
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11-04-2019, 04:37 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 532
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Quote:
Originally Posted by erich weaver
According to Tim at Desser Tire, the secret to the Michelin air-holding capability is that they are made of buty rubber rather than natural rubber. Desser offers an equivalent butyl rubber tube with the same metal, right-angle valve stem that they manufacture themselves, the AeroClassic Leakguard for $64.53. Or you can stick with the Michelin Airstop at $118.
Here is the link:
https://www.desser.com/pc_product_de...2D1A292CD51162
Erich
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Hi Erich,
Thanks for the lead. I will give them a try the next time I need tubes!
Dean
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11-04-2019, 06:17 PM
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VAF Moderator / Line Boy
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dayton, NV
Posts: 12,243
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Quote:
Originally Posted by erich weaver
According to Tim at Desser Tire, the secret to the Michelin air-holding capability is that they are made of butyl rubber rather than natural rubber. Desser offers an equivalent butyl rubber tube with the same metal, right-angle valve stem that they manufacture themselves, the AeroClassic Leakguard for $64.53. Or you can stick with the Michelin Airstop at $118.
Here is the link:
https://www.desser.com/pc_product_de...2D1A292CD51162
Erich
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Thanks Erich - I have been aware of those tubes from Desser for years, and know quite a few that have tried them - and no one has reported that they hold air as long as the Michelins (I have had the same experience). Not playing down Desser - I use their tires almost exclusively - but there is some other magic in the Michelins that no one else seems to have figured out....
Paul
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