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View Poll Results: Rivets or Sikaflex on your canopy?
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Rivets, has not cracked yet
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38.33% |
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Rivets, cracked
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7.50% |
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Sikaflex, no cracks yet
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50.00% |
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Sikaflex, cracks
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01-24-2018, 08:05 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Posts: 1,627
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Twelve years and 2150 hours on rivets before it cracked on a 75-degree day. New canopy installed with Sikaflex. I'll let you know how that turns out.
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Ron Schreck
IAC National Judge
RV-8, "Miss Izzy", 2250 Hours - Sold
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01-24-2018, 10:37 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bennington, Vermont USA
Posts: 1,301
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Riveted tip-up canopy built per plans and no crack after 10 years.
I did all the canopy work during a hot and humid New England summer, made sure it fitted well with no forcing needed, drilled oversized holes per the plans and used the special bits recommended to avoid any micro cracks that could grow into future cracks under thermal and mechanical load cycling.
Now I have probably gone and jinxed it
Jim Sharkey
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01-25-2018, 10:37 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Fargo, ND
Posts: 146
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I live in North Dakota where the temps can swing 130 degrees between winter and summer. I chose to go with the sikaflex bond for that reason. No problems so far. And no, I don't even think about flying when it's -30.
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01-26-2018, 08:11 AM
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Join Date: May 2015
Location: Crittenden, ky
Posts: 194
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Thanks
Thanks all! I hope we can keep gathering datapoints on this -
Of those responding:
11% of those using Sikaflex got cracks
19% of those using rivets got cracks.
Still a fairly small sample, but very useful. The comments are helpful too, thanks!
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01-26-2018, 08:54 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 155
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RV8. Proseal and screws. 15 years, 1500 hours, -20 F. to 110 F. NO CRACKS
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01-26-2018, 08:57 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Dunwoody GA (KLZU)
Posts: 59
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5% for Sikaflex
Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtZim
Thanks all! I hope we can keep gathering datapoints on this -
Of those responding:
11% of those using Sikaflex got cracks
19% of those using rivets got cracks.
Still a fairly small sample, but very useful. The comments are helpful too, thanks!
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I believe it's 5% for Sikaflex since Olyolson and Cjammes mistakenly clicked on Silaflex cracked. See posts 9 & 11.
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9A - 92129 / N1354J First Flight 5/2/2015
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10-25-2019, 11:27 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 937
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Both - Sika front 2/3rds, rivets rear 1/3rd
I did both.
Tip up canopy was Sikaflexed, no cracks, 1150 hours in 8 years.
Area over baggage compartment (RV7) was srewed as per plans. Cracked the first winter, crack emanated from a screw and propagated 3 inches or so. I've seen several other RVs that had a crack in exactly the same place, leading me to conclude that this crack might be less builder related and more internal stress related. Wish I had sikaflexed my rear canopy.
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Noah F, RV-7A
All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men? for they may act their dream with open eyes, to make it possible. -T.E. Lawrence
Last edited by Noah : 10-25-2019 at 12:40 PM.
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10-25-2019, 12:14 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hubbard Oregon
Posts: 9,027
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Noah
I did both.
Tip up canopy was Sikaflexed, no cracks, 1150 hours in 8 years.
Area over baggage compartment (RV7) was riveted. Cracked the first winter, crack emanated from a rivet 3 inches or so. I've seen several other RVs that had a crack in exactly the same place, leading me to conclude that this crack might be less builder related and more internal stress related. Wish I had sikaflexed my rear canopy.
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What type of rivets did you use?
The plans recommend screws in the roll bar and screws/washers/nuts around the aft perimeter.
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Hubbard, Oregon
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10-25-2019, 12:31 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: South Africa
Posts: 840
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Wish I could vote seven times
Built seven different RVs using Sika only. Not one crack yet
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Jan Hanekom
South Africa
Approved Person nr 325
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RV10 - ZU-XOX - (Flying)
RV7A - ZU-JRV - (Flying)
RV10 - ZU-JVR - (Written off)
RV7 - ZU-LOL - (Flying)
RV10 - ZU-RVI - (Flying)
RV7A - ZU-MER (Bought back)
RV7A - ZU-JAD (Sold Flying)
Dues paid for 2020 WITH A SMILE
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10-25-2019, 12:37 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Estes Park, CO
Posts: 3,931
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Sikaflex
Not in service. Maybe four months.
Personally, I believe cracks propagate from stress risers and polishing edges and holes helps prevent but I'm no Engineer nor did I stay at Holiday Inn. Check my blog for a write up on Sika.
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Larry Larson
Estes Park, CO
http://wirejockrv7a.blogspot.com
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Donated 12/03/2019, plus a little extra.
RV-7A #73391, N511RV reserved (2,000+ hours)
HS SB, empennage, tanks, wings, fuse, working finishing kit
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I cannot be, nor will I be, held responsible if you try to do the same things I do and it does not work and/or causes you loss, injury, or even death in the process.
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