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08-01-2019, 10:23 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: 08A
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Originally Posted by Bill Boyd
This raises several questions/ issues. What is the recommended procedure for breaking in the brake linings?
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I recommend not doing it.
Seriously, I quit the break-in procedure and couldn't tell any difference. They will settle in with normal usage. If the first few flights are off a runway so short that the last few percent of pad performance is critical, it's the wrong runway.
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Dan Horton
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Barrett IO-390
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08-01-2019, 10:53 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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Originally Posted by DanH
I recommend not doing it.
Seriously, I quit the break-in procedure and couldn't tell any difference. They will settle in with normal usage. If the first few flights are off a runway so short that the last few percent of pad performance is critical, it's the wrong runway.
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I came to the same conclusion. I just land a little hot and apply medium hard braking to "condition them" the first time out. Seems to be about the same as a low-speed 1700' taxi at 1700rpm. I did something to my last pads as they would no longer hold at run-up, so I replaced them and did the above procedure and everything is back to where it should be.
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Venice, FL
RV-6A. Mattituck TMX O-360, FP, GRT Sport EFIS, L3 Lynx NGT-9000
N164WM
N184WM reserved (RV-8)....finishing kit in progress. Titan IOX-370
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08-01-2019, 11:02 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Triangle Area, NC
Posts: 39
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Brake fire
We have fixed this very thing at my shop. Count your blessings that you didn?t run into something and have a prop strike. I would fix it my self or have others fix what I didn?t have the knowledge, skill, and ability to do and would not file an insurance claim. I have an assortment of used wheels, brakes, calipers, and tires which I would sell reasonable. I also have a new complete never installed left wheel pant kit if that is the side you damaged. Going with the diy approach it won?t be that bad. Line up some buddies, with experience, to help with the pant installation
Happy to help call if you wish to discuss further,
Terry
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Terry Gardner
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A&P IA
Light Sport Repairman, Airplane, Glider, Powered Parachute, Weight Shift
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08-01-2019, 11:08 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dayton, NV
Posts: 12,256
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DanH
I recommend not doing it.
Seriously, I quit the break-in procedure and couldn't tell any difference. They will settle in with normal usage. If the first few flights are off a runway so short that the last few percent of pad performance is critical, it's the wrong runway.
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I?m With Dan - I stopped doing brake break-in decades ago, and usually get several years out of my brake pads on all of my taildraggers.
Just my experince.
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Paul F. Dye
Editor at Large - KITPLANES Magazine
RV-8 - N188PD - "Valkyrie"
RV-6 (By Marriage) - N164MS - "Mikey"
RV-3B - N13PL - "Tsamsiyu"
A&P, EAA Tech Counselor/Flight Advisor
Dayton Valley Airpark (A34)
http://Ironflight.com
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08-01-2019, 11:41 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Landing field "12VA"
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I'll make a note of Dan and Paul's opinion - and scratch that off my 1st-flight readiness card. Brake fire is an experience I don't need.
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Bill Boyd
Hop-Along Aerodrome (12VA)
RV-6A - N30YD - Built '98 / sold '20
RV-10 - N130YD reserved - under construction
donating monthly to the VAF - thanks, Doug
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08-01-2019, 12:51 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Lake Country, B.C. Canada
Posts: 2,416
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ask the insurer?
just another data point; I had a non-aviation claim, and the insurer would not let me buy a used gadget, even if under the replacement max. value!
They absolutely insisted on an invoice from a business for a new gadget.
It turned out ok for me, but eliminated the option to 'fix it myself'.
check with the insurer, that might just answer a few questions. 
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Perry Y.
RV-9a - SOLD!....
Lake Country, BC
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08-01-2019, 01:54 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: San Marcos, CA
Posts: 415
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Don't
I would say "don't file a claim". I ran into this with my glider. My first claim was small. I asked the insurance company if I should file or not. They said, of course, that is what we are here for.
This happened twice more. Same question, same answer. So 3 claims over about 6-7 years.
One year, I didn't get renewed. They said the underwriter wouldn't renew me because of multiple claims. I said, "but I asked each time, and you said to file". I ended up getting a call-back from the owner apologizing for what occurred, but he could not change the underwriter's mind.
So I tried to get new insurance. They ask: Have you ever had previous claims? Note, they don't ask "in the last x years". So I have to answer yes. Then they ask: Have you ever been dropped by a previous insurance company? Again I have to answer yes.
So, the long and short of it for me, is avoid the claim unless you can't afford the repair.
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DG-800S Sailplane
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08-01-2019, 02:36 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NC25
Posts: 3,507
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DanH
I recommend not doing it.
Seriously, I quit the break-in procedure and couldn't tell any difference. They will settle in with normal usage. If the first few flights are off a runway so short that the last few percent of pad performance is critical, it's the wrong runway.
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Originally Posted by fl-mike
I came to the same conclusion. I just land a little hot and apply medium hard braking to "condition them" the first time out. Seems to be about the same as a low-speed 1700' taxi at 1700rpm. I did something to my last pads as they would no longer hold at run-up, so I replaced them and did the above procedure and everything is back to where it should be.
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I have been doing the same thing for over 20-years. The RV is too light of an aircraft to use the recommended taxi procedure.
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Gary A. Sobek
NC25 RV-6 Flying
3,400+ hours
Where is N157GS
Building RV-8 S/N: 80012
To most people, the sky is the limit.
To those who love aviation, the sky is home.
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08-01-2019, 02:41 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NC25
Posts: 3,507
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Originally Posted by Imbeccad
Hi guys-
Recently had a brake fire, from a recent brake lock up after landing and during taxi, on my 6A...
This resulted in the tire, wheel pant and fairing, brake lines at the wheel and possibly the brake assembly burning up fairly good. We are waiting to hear from a mechanic, but anticipating that the cost to fix might be between 3-4K. Trying to figure out the best route, pay out of pocket or file an insurance claim (no deductible). I?m new to all this, so if anyone has any thoughts I?d love the feedback and to hear if anyone has been in this same boat.
Secondary- does anyone have any experience with a brake fire- any salvageable parts? We probably had close to a minute of fire exposure.
Thanks again!
Becca
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I saw the after fire results of an RV-8 brake fire. The wheel and brake caliper were still good and reusable. The Wheel, brake, and caliper are the expensive parts. IF the wheel and caliper are good, I would NOT file an insurance claim.
The insurance company is in business to make money. You will pay for the repair either by the actual cost or in higher insurance premiums.
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Gary A. Sobek
NC25 RV-6 Flying
3,400+ hours
Where is N157GS
Building RV-8 S/N: 80012
To most people, the sky is the limit.
To those who love aviation, the sky is home.
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08-01-2019, 02:46 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Camas, WA
Posts: 370
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:-) I think he gets a pass on that work travel.
Where are you located? I bet some fellow RV'er/VAF member is willing to help you out.
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Dan Reed
Camas, WA
RV-7A - Slider in progress - N167DR (reserved)
Sitting in the paint booth, then final assembly/inspection time
2018 and 2019 VAF dues paid
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