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Old 06-11-2007, 08:45 PM
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Default Straw Man argument and facts

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I talked with a long time pilot at the airport a few weeks back he told me years ago that he got a service letter form Hartzell telling him he had to replace the prop within the next 100 hours.......or something to that effect cant remember exactly but it just goes to show you that this is not totally uncommon.

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Scott my friend not saying it can't or did not happen but Facts please? (Model #, Service Letter #, reason for recall)

I am not doubting you, but pointing your finger at Hartzell to justify Whirlwinds issues is a "straw man" argument. Woo Woo, my life depends on a Hartzell so please be specific, it may affect me. BTW, service letters don't ground or recall props, not even AD's necessarily do that.

Read the story of a fellow RV-8'er who got his Hartzell serviced at the service center, on the cover page of Vansairforece.net this week. Pretty impressive service.

"Hartzell's are better?" I see was a sarcastic title to your post. WW's problems are independent and unique. There company is independent and unique. Hartzell has nothing to do with it.

I restrained my self about making comments in this thread and did not comment, because it does not affect me. I have been outspoken about my concern with all small prop companies. I also have been outspoken enough in my opinion Hartzell gives the best value, performance, customer service and reliability, thus a better choice for RV'ers in my opinion. Perfect? No of course not, all props are man made and mechanical systems.

I am sure WW will work it out, and from what I read they are doing a good job. I would never make fun or gloat about this situation, because I KNOW it could happen to me and my Hartzell in some other way. We forget these are complicated high performance machines with parts under tremendous loads while being super reliable (safe). However to slam Hartzell to make WW seem better does not make sense to me, especially if you are not specific. I just like facts, especially when some one makes a comment about a part that my life depends on.
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Old 06-11-2007, 09:54 PM
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Have to relate an experience with Whirlwind blades on a Subaru powered Glasstar. These are new blades manufactured in late March. After 3hrs the blades developed cracks in the tips and when you squeeze the area uncured epoxy oozes out. They recieved the blades Monday and we still havn't heard back from them. Makes me nervous about what we will get back. Don
Well we got the repaired blades back from WW and after 5mins the cracks reappeared and threw uncured epoxy all over the front of the airplane. They are now building new blades but I don't know if I will ever trust that prop ever. I thought about going with a WW on my 7 but went Hartzell. Don
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Old 06-30-2007, 10:30 AM
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Default Add another interested party to the discussion...

I think I speak for many when I say I'm another lurker that has been watching the Whirlwind propellers and following this and other discussions and thinking strongly about buying one. I *love* the performance reports, the reported smoothness, and the very light weight. However, I am watching and waiting to see what happens before wading out there with my $7500 for a -151.

I have a Hartzell in a box that I just cannot bring myself to mount for all the weight and weight-induced installation complications it will present in my application. Please Whirlwind -get the situation fixed! -we're pulling for you!

Scott Spencer
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Old 06-30-2007, 07:56 PM
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Also... I'd love to know how many of the people with -151 ferrule issues have been running them on engines beyond 160 hp.
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:13 PM
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I have about 20 hours left on my Whirlwind 151 before i need to get it checked by the factory. Those of you that have already had your props checked and any repairs made, I would like to hear of your experiences. When I talked to Bill Koleno at Oshkosh, he was saying that they no longer think that the blades necessarily need replacement, but the bearings in the hub do.

Is there any warranty associated with the upgrade? Thoughts and opinions much appreciated.

Steve Ciha
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Old 08-31-2007, 01:26 PM
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i'm thinking of flying to Ohio next month for a P-51 gathering. maybe i should stop by the factory and have my prop OH or checked out at 350hrs. ? rv200
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Default State of Play

I was doing some research on props for RV8's and came across this thread. I am wondering what the current state of play with the whirlwind props is and if the issues have been solved and the product, at the moment I am considering either the Catto or the whirlwind. I like the simplicity, cost and weight of the Catto but a constant speed unit is hard to resist. Has anybody got any current experience with the whirlwinds?

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Old 03-01-2014, 05:04 AM
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Customer service has been outstanding for me on my 200RV prop. They stand behind their product.
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Old 03-01-2014, 05:43 AM
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I was a Whirlwind 151 guy, and during the period of this thread, they worked with me to get an upgrade to a 200RV, as mine did have a grease spitting issue. They stood by me and my prop through a lot. The 200RV just keeps humming along with no problems.
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Old 03-01-2014, 06:15 AM
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I've been flying behind my WW200C for 11 years. Great folks, great service, and people still stop and admire the prop before they admire the rest of my airplane...

The pilot rarely is admired at all...
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