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Old 07-02-2019, 04:23 PM
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Default See PMag data on a Glass Panel. A new PMag Controller

We have listened to many pilots who loved the idea of our Engine Bridge EI Controller except they do not own an iPad and prefer using an iPhone or even Android devices.

Now any device whether an iOS or Android, Laptops & PCs can connect to this unit and change all settings for one or two PMags.

Built-in Analog Outputs to connect up to 8 Channels to a Glass Panel/EMS module that is capable of accepting custom 0-5V Analog Inputs. Most Glass Panels with EMS modules are currently capable of such integration.

There are 4 Channels per PMag. These are the Advance Angle, Internal PMag reported Temperature & both Dwell times.

Even for those without a Glass Panel, the new WI-FI interface is easy to use, allows monitoring and adjusting PMags settings, includes PreSets for fast global configuration changes for certain missions such as Racing or other specific situations.

Few early-bird customers already got it and configured Dynon SV to report all Channels. Confirmed to work with both General Purpose (with 10K Pull-up) inputs or Enhanced Analog Inputs (No Pull-up) on the Dynon SV set.

More photos and the User's & Installation guide now online. Special Launch pricing for July only. https://www.enginebridge.com/product/eiwifi/

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Old 07-02-2019, 05:28 PM
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Which efis does this currently work on?
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Old 07-02-2019, 08:57 PM
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Which efis does this currently work on?
It will work on any EFIS system that can support 0-5v inputs, and I know Garmin and Dynon sure do. I have been testing out this new box for Engine Bridge over the past few weeks with my Dynon Skyview system and it has been flawless. I had been running the Bluetooth version from Engine Bridge for awhile now and once you realize the advantages of tweaking the P-Mag timing curve and seeing real time data it quickly became apparent having real time data on the EFIS would be so cool and Engine Bridge pulled it off. My last few weeks of flying consist of flying my FP RV-4 at 20,000ft out to Catto then running the pylons at Reno with the backseat full of nitrous bottles. Without the Engine Bridge P-Mag controller non of this would have been possible. Here are two pictures taken at the same time showing my Iphone and my Skyview. I simplified my Skyview EMS screen for the picture showing just the 4 parameters from the Right P-mag (Temperature, Coil 1 dwell, Coil 2 dwell and timing advance. Obviously Dynon lets you make the "gauge" any way you would like, I normally just run the numerical value.





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Old 07-02-2019, 10:06 PM
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Thank you. Could you explain to us non-pylon-racers why this is beneficial? For example, can I use it to go faster or burn less fuel? How does that work? What does it look like on the g3x and how would I configure that?

I?m not trying to be difficult, just trying to learn
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Old 07-02-2019, 10:27 PM
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The point I was trying to make is electronic ignition is not hands off. PMAG did there best to make a default advance cure but it’s the same mag for a 320,360,390 not to mention ram air, compression ratio, exhaust, rpm and mission. My personal option is PMAG’s are not nessasary a bolt on and go ignition. Being able to use the Ignition Bridge box and make changes instantly and see instant change in CHT allows you to tune your engine for correct timing. I was Running 40deg at 20,000 ft to get 200mph and 33nm/gal then ran 20deg with nitrous to get 240mph and 10nm/gal. Not everyone needs to go change there PMAG curve but everyone should understand your PMAG has the potential to run nearly double what your engine data plate shows. The Engine Bridge box finally gives us a super clean and economical way of monitoring our PMAGS. In regards to Garmin, you can add a 0-5v input but I’m a Dynon guy so I cant help with how the configureration would look.
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Old 07-02-2019, 10:42 PM
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Thank you Shawn for your feedback. You work and tests done on the Dynon is highly appreciated and will be of great help to those with Dynon.

Yes, any EFIS that is capable of showing custom Sensor (Analog Input 0-5V) either directly or using an EMS module can show the PMag data via this controller. The controller is just a "sensor" to the EFIS with Linear range.

Dynon/G3X/MGL and probably all other EMS modules allow custom configuration of sensors such as Pressure Sensors, or Position Sensors using Potentiometer. The User Guide for each EMS or EFIS should explain clearly how to define the sensor input. Each EFIS/EMS will be different but the basic ground layer of adding sensor should be very similar. Considering it's a Linear range.

Some just take the Min value to display (0V in the wire), and the Max value (5V) and interpolate the linear values in between the range.
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Old 07-03-2019, 12:22 PM
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Here are answers to a few questions received via email that could also be of interest to other viewers.

- Current draw: Its 160mA when nothing is connected to the WI-FI network. Will jump to 190mA if you are using the WI-FI network. It's safe to budget 250mA for it. The unit does not need its own Circuit Breaker. It can share it with other non-inductive loads, so no motors or high load devices. 1A in-line fuse can be also be used.

- Wi-Fi Network: This controller creates its own Wi-FI network, but it does not have to be connected all the time, only when changing Settings or viewing running parameters. So those with EFIS or ADS-B IN Wi-Fi network can switch to this network when needed and be disconnected most of the time. On the other hand, most probably using an iPad to connect to the ADS-B IN for ForeFlight, a phone can be used rather for the EI Controller. Using the Analog Outputs to see the data on a Glass Panel eliminates the need to connect to the Wi-Fi to view, though changing settings can only be done via the Wi-Fi interface. Multiple devices can connect to the Controller Wi-Fi network as the same time.

- Analog Outputs: There will be 4 unused Analog Outputs for those with Single PMag Installations, the Controller is capable of firmware update via Wi-Fi. We are considering using one of these unused Outputs to show RPM as well, and maybe offer that change to dual PMag installations by offering a setup screen on Wi-Fi to decide which output is for what function. This way those who don't care about seeing dwell time output can decide to output the RPM for example. Do email us to see the general interest in this feature.

- Power-up Sequence: There is a Power-up sequence explained in the User?s Guide. Wi-Fi will be active and ready for use once this sequence is complete. This is 10 seconds if two PMags are found, or 1 minute if only one PMag found (or none). The Controller tries for one minute to communicate with both PMag channels to see which one is present. If one or both PMags are not found such as not-powered, Wi-Fi shows N/A on that PMag side. This has come up as some pilots use a separate switch to power the PMags only when they want to start the engine while their Master Switch runs everything else first. If this is the case, power the Controller from the same switch or restart the Controller after powering up the PMags.
In a standard setup where the PMags are connected to the Master Switch, this should be fine, even if the Controller is connected to Avionics Switch, it will be powered after the PMags are powered.

Thanks for everyone?s interest and questions.
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Old 07-03-2019, 04:30 PM
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Looks like an interesting replacement to the EiCommander. It would be nice to have a digital output with functionality similar to EiCommander's advance divergence warning. Is it in the plans by any chance?
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Old 07-03-2019, 04:51 PM
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Looks like an interesting replacement to the EiCommander. It would be nice to have a digital output with functionality similar to EiCommander's advance divergence warning. Is it in the plans by any chance?
Thank you for the question. Yes, I just replied to the same exact question on another threads. Here is the reply:

"The iPad edition App does the timing mismatch feature with a LED output. Though its not included in the Wi-Fi edition. We are planning to release a tiny separate board (1" x 1.5") that is dedicated to this feature only. Its planned to be low cost (around $40). It was decided to have it as a separate board so it can be installed even without controller. It does offer a LED output and also a single Analog output to show the "divergence" read out on Glass panel. Connection to this small board will be just the two TACHs".

It is already included in the iPad only model, but as we know there are some pilots who do not want to change the default PMag Settings (not sure why! but that's a debate for another thread ) so a small low-cost board just for the "divergence" made sense to us and was omitted from the Wi-Fi interface model. That board still have an Analog Output so it can be seen on the Glass. And if the EFIS offers a "warning message" based on a value from a sensor, then even the EFIS will show a warning if the divergence reached the limit you set.
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- Height Call out like the big boys down to 0 feet.
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Old 07-16-2019, 04:06 PM
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Here are some photos of Analog Output on Dynon HDX 1100 Panel. This customer took the photos after adding the Adv Angle only.

He also sent the Dynon Sensor file he used. Here is a link to a ZIP file containing two different Sensor files, one for the Adv Angles only, the other for all 4 Channels. Those with Dynon can use this file as basis for their own file.

Dynon Sensor Def





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