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Old 04-30-2019, 08:37 AM
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I find these types of threads amusing......

The FAR's and (some) operating limitations require the pilot to identify his aircraft as experimental on first contact with a control tower. It is not required for any other ATC communication (approach control, en-route center, etc.).

In this thread we have had a lot of "what I do".... and that "no one has ever said anything"..... much of it contrary to the rules.
It doesn't matter if the rule makes sense or not (a lot of them don't). It is still a rule that applies to everyone and I think it is in appropriate to promote the idea that because someone has personally decided that it doesn't apply to them, that everyone else should operate that way as well.

As with anything else in life, each person has to make their own decision, but be clear in doing so that the requirement applies to every experimental class aircraft, whether you think it should or not.
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Old 04-30-2019, 08:50 AM
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Probably doesn?t matter unless you?re in busy controlled airspace.
Clearly?...!!!?- no pun intended, there?s a little confusion regarding proper behavior on all sides. I think if I am sandwiched between ?Heavies? landing in busy airspace where it?s hard to get a word in edgewise on the radio I would definitely prefer ATC to know exactly what type of aircraft I am flying.

But yeah amusing topic
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Old 04-30-2019, 09:16 AM
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"...I find these types of threads amusing......

The FAR's and (some) operating limitations require the pilot to identify his aircraft as experimental on first contact with a control tower. It is not required for any other ATC communication (approach control, en-route center, etc.).

In this thread we have had a lot of "what I do".... and that "no one has ever said anything"..... much of it contrary to the rules.
It doesn't matter if the rule makes sense or not (a lot of them don't). It is still a rule that applies to everyone and I think it is in appropriate to promote the idea that because someone has personally decided that it doesn't apply to them, that everyone else should operate that way as well.

As with anything else in life, each person has to make their own decision, but be clear in doing so that the requirement applies to every experimental class aircraft, whether you think it should or not..."

Well said.
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Old 04-30-2019, 09:25 AM
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I find these types of threads amusing......

The FAR's and (some) operating limitations require the pilot to identify his aircraft as experimental on first contact with a control tower. It is not required for any other ATC communication (approach control, en-route center, etc.).

In this thread we have had a lot of "what I do".... and that "no one has ever said anything"..... much of it contrary to the rules.
It doesn't matter if the rule makes sense or not (a lot of them don't). It is still a rule that applies to everyone and I think it is in appropriate to promote the idea that because someone has personally decided that it doesn't apply to them, that everyone else should operate that way as well.

As with anything else in life, each person has to make their own decision, but be clear in doing so that the requirement applies to every experimental class aircraft, whether you think it should or not.
I agree +10,000%

I shouldn't care what the rest of you do, but just a few "bad apples" can give the rest of us that follow the requirements a bad reputation.

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Im just curious about what ADSB will bring to the table in this discussion.

After January 1,2020 will ATC have enough information to know exactly what type / model & N reg. they are dealing with ?
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Old 04-30-2019, 10:30 AM
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As a controller in Canada, I couldn't care less what you call yourself with your registration. Experimental, Vans, RV, romeo victor7, RV7, all good in Calgary VTA. If I need more, I'll ask. But if you tell me you are an RV-14, expect some questions and a quick chat about where I'm at with my build.

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Old 04-30-2019, 10:38 AM
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Scott, Bob, Galin...you use "experimental" in your initial call to ground, before taxi? Or do you wait until your "Ready on XX" call?
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Old 04-30-2019, 10:48 AM
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Scott, Bob, Galin...you use "experimental" in your initial call to ground, before taxi? Or do you wait until your "Ready on XX" call?
I do.
Home base airport tower has said they prefer to have you identified as such when calling ground because the ground controller hands off the info to the local controller (when they are busy enough that they have both positioned man'ed).
BTW... they are totally by the book here (casual about nothing) and do identify an experimental as such, to any other traffic they are communicating to about said aircraft.
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FWIW I use "Experimental" for all my transmissions. Since I am not that smart I gotta keep it simple.

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Old 04-30-2019, 11:03 AM
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Scott, Bob, Galin...you use "experimental" in your initial call to ground, before taxi? Or do you wait until your "Ready on XX" call?
I do. First call only (if they respond).
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