Run-up Pad Courtesy

[BCP Boys]

Originally Posted by fl-mike

A bit of thread drift, but I saw a Corsair do his mag check on the taxiway at SnF with the tail pointed at the corner of the HBP (now GAP!) area. This was about ten years ago. Oh man, he didn't make any friends that day! Grass and dirt flying everywhere.

A little more drift but just confirming that even professionals don't know what they are doing... At Sun-N-Fun this year on Sunday, the NOAA WP-3D Storm chaser was holding short of RWY 9 but instead of staying on the taxiway (pointing West) the pilot proceeded to point the nose North at the run up pad and wait for clearance. It took about 5 minutes (maybe longer) while the 4 Allison T56 Turboprops were blowing the campers at the RV campsites and obviously that was a lot of wind but then the pilot spooled it up to get moving and just about blew away this little 2 year old girl at the campsite. I'm sure the campers expected some blowing since they were right there but that was so excessive I really felt bad for that little girl, I'm sure she was scared.

Just goes to show that even professionals that fly for a living sometimes don't have situational awareness on the ground.

[Veetail88]

I'd always try the radio. Still no response, go....Carefully.

[terrykohler]

On one of the runways at PTK, we have a fairly narrow pad, but can fit in 5-6 aircraft IF they pay attention. Love the guys who take the furthest position (that?s good) but then line up parallel to the runway and blow **** on everyone behind them. Have also experienced the next door neighbor (a club plane at the time) starting up with the tail facing the door. Yup, my door was open. Pilot in the right seat was a 15,000 hour flight instructor. Before they were able to taxi, I grabbed the right wingtip and shook it up and down a ?few? times. After shutdown, a calm discussion and some red faces brought a permanent end to the problem. Guys, it?s just common sense and common courtesy.
Terry, CFI
RV9A N323TP

[ChiefPilot]

Originally Posted by RV8Squaz

I should add that at Hartsfield, if a jet isn?t ready to go, they get called by the tower and directed to cross the runway and wait on the other side. If no response, they get called by the tower on guard. If still no response, intersection takeoffs begin and the jet that is gumming up departures is bypassed. Finally, a security vehicle is sent.

Same thing happens if you mistakenly call that one taxiway "delta" instead of "dixie".

[Carlos151]

One radio courtesy call.
No response, pass him/her up if you can.
Lots of students where I operate. I try to be patient but one of my biggest pet peeves is the complete and total lack of awareness of where your prop blast is going. I don?t blame the students but I definitely blame the instructors. After a radio call I usually receive an ?oh, sorry? response. Maybe it?s the whole ?it?s all about me? mentality of people now and if you don?t believe it, just ask, they?ll remind you that it?s all about them and only them. Waiting at the hold short for someone who?s clueless of the world around them is the same thing.

[rockwoodrv9]

Too many people today do not realize that when they close their eyes, we are all still here.

[Smilin' Jack]

Or love the folks that can not turn their aircraft on a taxiway and will blow the gravel and loose stones all over your plane. Gee just 10 degrees makes a big difference. My tail wheel I swing it around almost a 45 to the taxiway just to be courteous

[rv7boy]

I confess I?ve been guilty of parking my plane once with the prop blast pointed toward other planes and people. They didn?t say anything to me but I figured it out after I got out of my 172. Looking back on my student days I can?t remember an instructor ever cautioning me about my prop blast. But that was a long time ago.

Just as bad are the hangar neighbors who crank up in front of their hangar and warm up their oil, program their avionics, and who knows what else for maybe 10 minutes before taxiing to the runup area. I?ve actually left my hangar because of the fuel rich carbon monoxide laden exhaust gasses in my hangar. Gave me a headache.

[danny]

I was on the run up pad when a plane passed me and another up and stopped at the hold short line and proceeded to do his run up and checklist. I asked if he was going and he responded with a verbal middle finger. Cub was not heavily armed so I waited for him to takeoff then proceeded.
I don't think there's much you can do about rudeness and I just hate joining in.