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Old 03-05-2019, 09:49 AM
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There is one thing I always find myself scratching my head at related to the "Heavy Iron - RV brotherhood" is obviously something none of us here have a problem with...

It's when we're in cruise flight, non sterile cockpit, the pictures are being shared on the phone/iPad and stories are being told. I'll listen to some guy (or gal) rant on and on about their lake house and $70k+ ski boat with what I assume to be auto throttles (connected to GPS for controlling speed for skiers). We get around to my RV sales pitch, and it always ends with "I wish I could afford that."

In my 8 years flying 121 so far, I'm just saddened mostly how many "pilots" don't really like airplanes like the VAF/EAA/(insert fun acronym here) crowd does. I'm really glad the OP had a good experience with co-workers!
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Old 03-05-2019, 10:30 AM
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Two thoughts:

One thing I love about all aspects of aviation is the people. We all have a different path that brought us to today. Everyone's story is unique, interesting and made us who we are.

For a 121 guy (specifically one who has little to no GA background), there are a lot of steps from thinking about getting into RVs to owning one and flying it proficiently. Getting into RVs is a huge commitment vs another hobby like buying a Porsche.

Building / buying. Prebuys, owner maintenance, insurance, training, etc...

I have had a great RV experience in the limited time since my wife and I got our 6. But it was the people around us who helped make the transition from poser to owner possible.

I wish there were more EAA chapters so that those thinking about joining VAF can get there easier.

Online community is great, but having someone show you how to change your first tire, wheel landings, or whatever is also incredibly valuable.
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Old 03-05-2019, 12:58 PM
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Old 03-05-2019, 01:34 PM
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The implication that Jason (EXTAAFLY) presents is a complete and total insult to every other qualified airline pilot out there, civilian or military background.

26+ years flying for an airline, 7+ years flying for the Navy, combat included, 23,000+ hours logged and counting, I have the utmost respect for EVERY crewmember I fly with, civilian or military. There is NEVER a question of their qualifications, training takes care of that. There is always a question about everyone's background in a good way. We ALL have stories to tell and we ALL can learn from them. This nonsense that mine is bigger than yours is just that, nonsense!

We build and fly RV's because we ALL love them. That we can replicate a lot of what we did in the military with these machines, formation and aerobatic flying, is a bonus. If we can pass those skills to others, it makes all of us safer aviators.
Oh come on Karl. . . Seriously? Did you miss the very FIRST line of my post? (I went back, highlighted it in bold print and then provided a definition of what it means) My tongue was in my cheek. Everyday we go to work, we fly with talented people from all walks of life. I have been earning a living as a pilot for 27 years. My line about regional pilots was. . . Wait for it. . . A JOKE. I was a regional pilot from the days of 8 legs, 6+ IFR approaches to minimums, with 6+ de-icings. I have never thought of myself as the top of the class, that is why I can poke FUN at myself. I am a builder. I have owned a built RV6. And I have thousands of hours in just about everything that ever came out of Wichita and Vero Beach.

A good friend of mine, years ago when he, I and a couple of anti EAB guys were having a conversation about EAB v. Certified. He, an A&P, airline pilot, and genuious in all things mechanical made a point that. . . All airplanes are designed and built by someone. And that was meant that EAB can and in many ways is as good or BETTER than certified. My line about all airplanes are built by someone and was not meant to tear down EAB. . . It was meant to raise EAB and Vans to par with certified. Why would I be pouring $200k in to an RV-14 if I was living in a “glass house”

Again. . . Most of what I wrote in my post was meant as COMEDY. . . That is why there was a disclamer. That is why I refuse your premise that I completely besmirched the entire community of military pilots. I have the utmost respect for all that they do and have done for this country. The emoticons should have given that away. I am sorry you think this way. . . But that was certainly not the point of my post. That is why there was a. . . Disclaimer and smiley face emoticons.

Some times you guys really need to get a bit of a sense of humor. In 27 years of a successful career, with an almost flawless training record (didn’t everyone bust their initial CFI in the early 90’s? Oh, this mediocre civilian did. Only 1 bust in 30 years of check rides almost every 6-9 months) I have certainly been on the receiving end of military pilots ire for my position. . . Like a recent new hire at my company that spent 15 minutes. . . Incredulously pointing out that he couldn’t believe I got hired with “no jet time”. I typically laugh it off and compare it to Nose Wheel v. Tail Wheel or Chevrolet v. Ford. It is a debate that will always be a part of our world. . . Some people take it seriously. . . I do not.

For those of you so greatly offended. . . That didn’t bother to read the very first line of my post. Please go back and read the first line. . . If you’re still greatly offended by my comments. . . I am sorry. It was meant as a professional, courteous, razzing of my fellow professionals. In no way was it meant to disrespect EAB or Military.

Chill Bruh!

Krea. . . My apologies. We met at Synergy in November 2017. I didn’t mean to steer your thread off. My response was meant as a tongue in cheek comparison to all the walks of life we encounter daily. General, military and commercial aviation and the debates we passionately discuss/argue daily while cruising over the world.
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Old 03-05-2019, 02:53 PM
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See U @ SNF????
Yup - hope I can find something to fly while I?m there!
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Old 03-05-2019, 03:51 PM
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Talking Wait, no photos?

I'm disappointed:

I'm still waiting for photos of the heavy iron parked next to the RV's at some airport restaurant!
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Old 03-05-2019, 06:33 PM
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Oh come on Karl. . . Seriously? Did you miss the very FIRST line of my post? (I went back, highlighted it in bold print and then provided a definition of what it means) My tongue was in my cheek.


Again. . . Most of what I wrote in my post was meant as COMEDY. . . That is why there was a disclamer. That is why I refuse your premise that I completely besmirched the entire community of military pilots. I have the utmost respect for all that they do and have done for this country. The emoticons should have given that away. I am sorry you think this way. . . But that was certainly not the point of my post. That is why there was a. . . Disclaimer and smiley face emoticons.

Some times you guys really need to get a bit of a sense of humor. In 27 years of a successful career, with an almost flawless training record (didn?t everyone bust their initial CFI in the early 90?s? Oh, this mediocre civilian did. Only 1 bust in 30 years of check rides almost every 6-9 months) I have certainly been on the receiving end of military pilots ire for my position. . . Like a recent new hire at my company that spent 15 minutes. . . Incredulously pointing out that he couldn?t believe I got hired with ?no jet time?. I typically laugh it off and compare it to Nose Wheel v. Tail Wheel or Chevrolet v. Ford. It is a debate that will always be a part of our world. . . Some people take it seriously. . . I do not.

For those of you so greatly offended. . . That didn?t bother to read the very first line of my post. Please go back and read the first line. . . If you?re still greatly offended by my comments. . . I am sorry. It was meant as a professional, courteous, razzing of my fellow professionals. In no way was it meant to disrespect EAB or Military.

Chill Bruh!

Krea. . . My apologies. We met at Synergy in November 2017. I didn?t mean to steer your thread off. My response was meant as a tongue in cheek comparison to all the walks of life we encounter daily. General, military and commercial aviation and the debates we passionately discuss/argue daily while cruising over the world.
Hey Jason. I knew you were joking. Sorry this went a bit off the rails.

Everyone I fly with brings something to the table and I try to learn from them all.

Hope you are making good progress on your plane. I'm building an RV-10 at Synergy Air South. This week is doors. Mucho funno.
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Old 03-05-2019, 09:04 PM
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There it is!

Cool photo. Thanks.
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Old 03-06-2019, 10:51 AM
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Here's a couple. First is when I'm waiting for freight at work when Mom and Dad just happen to be in the area. Second is my airplane with some Heavy Iron while volunteering at the Yankee Air Museum.



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