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Old 02-28-2019, 09:19 AM
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Cool, then Wifi iPad it is, thanks !
But I can tell you from personal experience installing several Echos that the iPad can't use that gps data to know where it is. If you buy a wifi only iPad you will need an external gps chip for that.
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Old 02-28-2019, 09:46 AM
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Well, my experience is based on running an Android wifi only tablet without internal gps running Avare. It works fine with gps positions shown while flying when connected to the EchoUAT wifi. Have no idea why we have different experiences??

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Old 02-28-2019, 09:56 AM
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It only works if your app can eat ADSB data such as an EFB like Foreflight or iFly. It doesn?t go directly into the iPad. It works for me with iFly. YMMV
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Old 02-28-2019, 11:06 AM
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Specifically the issue I've seen running ForeFlight on a wifi-only iPad is that traffic is depicted in the correct location on the map background, but ForeFlight (the iPad) doesn't know where your own aircraft is. It was an easy thing to check. My iPad has an internal GPS (wifi + cellular version). The iPads in question did not. I'd go flying with the customers in their airplanes with both iPads along. Mine knew where we were, the others didn't. Plugging a Bad Elf external GPS or similar into the wifi-only iPad would solve the problem.
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Old 02-28-2019, 11:12 AM
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Different opinions and uAvionics hasn't replied to my email requesting this info.
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Old 02-28-2019, 12:36 PM
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Personally I would spend the extra $100 and then be able to use the iPad in the car when on vacation.
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Old 02-28-2019, 02:13 PM
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Personally I would spend the extra $100 and then be able to use the iPad in the car when on vacation.
My truck has a really big moving map in the dash that runs off of my iPhone 6s on Sprint (personal) and I also carry an iPhone 6S+ on AT&T (business). On top of that I have a Garmin Nuvi for when I'm out of cellular signal, which happened twice on a drive from Indiana home and once driving north of Houston coming home.

I never use the iPad in my car. Since I retired from commercial flying I only use the iPad in the airplane for fun so why waste an extra $150 for a cellular iPad if I don't need it and I can use that money for something else? On long trips in the truck cross country I always take my Mac Air laptop in case I want to watch movies or rsearch something while tethering off of my iPhones.
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Or do as I did, buy a $200 ANDROID tablet, use the free FltPlanGo app and escape the whole "I-thingy $$$" stranglehold.
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Old 02-28-2019, 03:01 PM
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I have an android tablet laying around too but I'd have to check if the new WingX works the same on it as it does in the iPad. I'll have to go see. Oh and I use the FlghtplanGo app on it and my iphones too.
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Specifically the issue I've seen running ForeFlight on a wifi-only iPad is that traffic is depicted in the correct location on the map background, but ForeFlight (the iPad) doesn't know where your own aircraft is. It was an easy thing to check. My iPad has an internal GPS (wifi + cellular version). The iPads in question did not. I'd go flying with the customers in their airplanes with both iPads along. Mine knew where we were, the others didn't. Plugging a Bad Elf external GPS or similar into the wifi-only iPad would solve the problem.
I have a WiFi only iPad and use ForeFlight and my echo/safefly gps with no problem, the position data works fine. But remember that the echouat itself has no gps. What position source was the echo using when you had issues?

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