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02-07-2019, 07:50 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Blythewood, SC
Posts: 12
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Carb floats
Try Aircraft Spruce. I ordered on 1/27 and received a pair today.
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02-07-2019, 08:36 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: colorado springs, co
Posts: 13
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Latest float version?
Are these the 861-188 floats? Seem to be the -184 floats.
I bought a set of the 861-188's from Lockwood last week.
-nick
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02-07-2019, 09:13 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: West Chester, Pa
Posts: 583
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Lockwood, Leading Edge Airfoil, and California Power all have them on back order. (The -188 which is the latest. )
Will try Aircraft Spruce by phone tomorrow. Web site did not have 188s
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Jeff Vaughan
RV 12 N237VW ELSA
RV 7A N561EV Sold
West Chester Pa
2020 donation current
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02-07-2019, 11:00 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Granada Hills
Posts: 810
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Vaughan
I am doing my first inspection on my 12. All of the carb floats are over weight.
Have not been able to locate any replacements. All Rotax dealers tell me they are back ordered currently 30 days or indefinitely.
I only have 74 hours on the carbs.
Now that sucks.
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Type and brand and octane of fuel you run? 100LL or MOGAS? What brand of fuel?
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02-08-2019, 07:55 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Blythewood, SC
Posts: 12
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Carb floats
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Originally Posted by np12
Are these the 861-188 floats? Seem to be the -184 floats.
I bought a set of the 861-188's from Lockwood last week.
-nick
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The ones I got are the 861-184 which explains their lower price.
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02-13-2019, 10:20 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: West Chester, Pa
Posts: 583
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Sunoco 93 for the last 40 hours. 100 LL 50/50 for the first 30 hours
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Jeff Vaughan
RV 12 N237VW ELSA
RV 7A N561EV Sold
West Chester Pa
2020 donation current
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02-13-2019, 11:35 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Port Orange, Fl
Posts: 931
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I'm frankly tired of replacing my floats - my 4th set just went bad (almost 600 hrs on the engine). I'm certainly not impressed with the quality of the Bing floats, or rather, I'm highly negatively impressed.
I'm actually experimenting with the MS floats. I measured the pin depth of known good Bing floats and the MS floats and found that the MS pin depth was approx. 1/32" lower than the Bing floats which means a slightly higher fuel level in the bowl - I wasn't sure how that would affect engine running. I've just recently started test flying the MS floats. I've been approaching it carefully and only have about 10 hrs on the MS floats. Various power settings from low RPM to WOT, altitudes, attitudes, multiple take-offs, etc. So far I don't see any difference between the MS floats and the Bings. Power, temperatures, etc. all seem perfectly normal so far.
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Tom
Port Orange, Fl
EAA #51411
RV-12 N121TK ELSA #120845; first flight 06/10/2015; 700 hrs as of 02/2020
RV-12 N918EN ELSA #120995 Eagles Nest Project; first flight 05/18/2019
SPA Panther N26TK; First Flight 03/13/2020
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02-13-2019, 01:26 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Hensley Airpark, TN
Posts: 143
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tomkk
I'm frankly tired of replacing my floats - my 4th set just went bad (almost 600 hrs on the engine). I'm certainly not impressed with the quality of the Bing floats, or rather, I'm highly negatively impressed.
I'm actually experimenting with the MS floats. I measured the pin depth of known good Bing floats and the MS floats and found that the MS pin depth was approx. 1/32" lower than the Bing floats which means a slightly higher fuel level in the bowl - I wasn't sure how that would affect engine running. I've just recently started test flying the MS floats. I've been approaching it carefully and only have about 10 hrs on the MS floats. Various power settings from low RPM to WOT, altitudes, attitudes, multiple take-offs, etc. So far I don't see any difference between the MS floats and the Bings. Power, temperatures, etc. all seem perfectly normal so far.
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Great update Tom, thanks!! I have no confidence that Bing will ever fix our problem, so a permanent fix would be great. Please keep us updated on your testing. Paul
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Paul Straub, First Flight May 5, 2017
N917PB, SN 120971
175 hours and counting.....
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02-13-2019, 01:36 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Hinckley, Ohio
Posts: 2,056
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I just looked at MS website... Is $125 for single float or pair of floats (I hope, I hope)?
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Jim Stricker
EAA #499867
PPL/ASEL 1970 - Sport Pilot since 2007
80 hrs Flying Aeronca Chief 11AC N86203
1130 hrs Flying 46 Piper J-3 Cub N6841H
Bought Flying RV-12 #120058 Oct 2015 with 48TT - Hobbs now 618 
LSRM-A Certificate 2016 for RV-12 N633CM
Special Thanks... EJ Trucks - USN Crew Chief A-4 Skyhawk
MJ Stricker (Father & CFI) - USAAF 1st Lt. Captain B-17H
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02-13-2019, 01:53 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Granada Hills
Posts: 810
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tomkk
I'm frankly tired of replacing my floats - my 4th set just went bad (almost 600 hrs on the engine). I'm certainly not impressed with the quality of the Bing floats, or rather, I'm highly negatively impressed.
I'm actually experimenting with the MS floats. I measured the pin depth of known good Bing floats and the MS floats and found that the MS pin depth was approx. 1/32" lower than the Bing floats which means a slightly higher fuel level in the bowl - I wasn't sure how that would affect engine running. I've just recently started test flying the MS floats. I've been approaching it carefully and only have about 10 hrs on the MS floats. Various power settings from low RPM to WOT, altitudes, attitudes, multiple take-offs, etc. So far I don't see any difference between the MS floats and the Bings. Power, temperatures, etc. all seem perfectly normal so far.
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What brand and type of fuel are you running in your RV-12 with 4 bad sets of floats?
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