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Old 02-12-2019, 06:14 PM
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Hi Steve, thanks for the fast response. I’m talking about anonymous mode for 1090ES. I was curious about the possible impact to the equipment to implement said mode. Maybe an easy entry screen in conjunction with a secure ID fob? Although that would make me anonymous to “airplane spotters” but not the govt?
Again this is something new and not here yet but the FAA has an acronym for it so that’s at least something
“Private ICAO Addresses” PIA. There is supposed to be a technology demonstration in early 2019.
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Old 02-12-2019, 06:48 PM
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Hey Bill, think of the FAA as your wife. If your doing something you wouldn?t want them to know about.....you probably shouldn?t be doing it.😇
That's kind of like saying, why not let the authorities search your home or track you in your car, if you haven't done something wrong.

A government that tracks it citizens doesn't trust it citizens.
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Old 02-12-2019, 07:15 PM
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That's kind of like saying, why not let the authorities search your home or track you in your car, if you haven't done something wrong.

A government that tracks it citizens doesn't trust it citizens.
The next step will be fees of all sorts. Our ADS-B will be used like an EZ Toll.
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Old 02-12-2019, 08:33 PM
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It's my belief that if you want to remain anonymous, you must depart and land squawking 1200 in anonymous mode. Personally, I don't see the point.
That?s my understanding too. 90% of my flying will be where Mode C is not required anyway.

The FAA?s NexGen website (in the FAQs) states that anonymous mode ?enables the transceiver to broadcast a randomized flight ID and a pseudo-ICAO address?. Sounds strange to me.
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Old 02-12-2019, 10:24 PM
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I installed the switch even though I leave it in anonymous mode almost all the time. In order to qualify for the rebate I had to do the verification flight with anonymous mode off, otherwise I might have just run pin 5 to ground and been in anonymous mode all the time.

I verified with Carl in his new, to him, RV-8 that when flipping the switch on I show up as "VFR" and with the switch off I show up with my tail number. ATC can still see the tail number, the only thing I am trying to avoid is all of the tracking web sites who have no need or right to know where I am at any given point.
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Old 02-12-2019, 11:17 PM
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That's kind of like saying, why not let the authorities search your home or track you in your car, if you haven't done something wrong.

A government that tracks it citizens doesn't trust it citizens.
You would be shocked at what activity the Govt is tracking and has at their fingertips. A few years after 9/11 I showed up at ORD and had left my wallet at home with my drivers license in it. A nice TSA lady pulled me aside and offered to help, as I had a very important meeting that afternoon. She said they could get me through. She put me on the phone with some Govt person who asked me a lot of questions to verify my identity. I was literally SHOCKED with the level and type of information they not only knew about me, but were able to pull up on a single computer screen in 10 seconds. The patriot act was the single largest reduction in privacy rights we have ever seen in this country. Our founding fathers must have been rolling in their graves.

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Old 02-12-2019, 11:40 PM
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This makes as much sense as people that cover a car license plate they?re selling, meanwhile thousands of people and license plate readers see them all day.
Who cares where you go unless you?re cheating on your wife.
My dad had a case like that when a guy had a hard landing in Alaska the troopers tracked him down and when a concerned citizen was called at the guys house they said he and his wife were ok. Too bad the woman that picked up the phone at the guys home was his wife.
Believe me no one on this thread is important enough for anyone to care about. The black helicopters are not coming for you.
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Old 02-12-2019, 11:42 PM
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Anyway, you do something stupid enough to get their attention going anonymous isn?t going to prevent them from finding you.
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Old 02-13-2019, 04:50 AM
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This is NOT correct. There is a switch that must be installed on the GDL82. If one wishes to operate it in anonymous mode, you would have to engage that mode using that switch. Also, it is not broadcasting a 'phony' ID. An ADS-B display will show "VFR" in place of your N number.
In anonymous mode the unit replaces your unique ICAO identifier with a random number generated onboard so it is in fact a phony number and statistically impossible to match an actual other aircraft. So while not spoofing it is phony.
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Old 02-13-2019, 04:55 AM
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Mode S, 1090ES = Self Lojacked.

Mode C only, UAT 978 Out only, optional lojacking. My GRT EFIS shows a constant traffic alert of me to me as a VFR1200 code if I chose Anonymous. Toggle the Skybeacon Anonymous off, GRT recognizes and suppresses myself.

Avare acts similarly.


That is an issue with your "in" equipment. Most in units do a very good job of filtering ghosting whether operating in ananymous mode or not. Contact your in manufacturer to check for software updates.
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