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Old 02-12-2019, 06:44 PM
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Default Cirrus G3 Turbo -VS- RV 10

Ok, I'm very much considering building a 10 orrrrr buying a G3 Cirrus. I don't give a flip about the chute, but man.... They sure look like beemers inside those things. The 10's can look pretty spiffy too for sure. I would have to put the full interior in the 10 to be happy. I have a 7 and it's quite noisy. Keep in mind that I have nothing but seats in it, nothing to dampen the sound. I'm guessing that I would put around $225,000 in the 10 and the comperable Cirrus would cost me $400 - $500K. (Newer one, G1000 panel etc.) Now, that's a big number, but I'm willing to live with it if I am comfortable in it until I upgrade to a turboprop. (That's another discussion...)
I THINK I can build the 10 in about 14+ months. I built my 7 in 10 months. Both were/will be Q-build.

So anyone who may have experience with both, I sure would appreciate your input. Would love to know what anyone thought about noise, seating etc... Here's my partial list of positives.

Rv10
Cost
Maintenance (No waiting on a mechanic to sign off. LOVE that)
Instruments are half price (Cost again)
TO/Land distance is tops
Ability to put anything in it I want without a sign off (Mechanic)
No chute to repack every 10 years
Much more I'm sure....

Cirrus Turbo
FIKI
Incredible interior
20+ knots faster than a 10 (up high at a cost of a lot of fuel)
Chute for when I have a heart attack and the wife hasn't learned to land yet
Already put together (At a significant cost)
No fiberglass to breath and give me cancer (See above)
Side stick (I like that it's out of the way)

Thank you all for the help.
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Old 02-12-2019, 07:36 PM
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I have heard rumor that the average Annual Inspection on a Cirrus is about $15k. There are a whole lot of expensive things to go wrong on a Cirrus.
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Old 02-12-2019, 08:10 PM
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I have heard rumor that the average Annual Inspection on a Cirrus is about $15k. There are a whole lot of expensive things to go wrong on a Cirrus.
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Old 02-12-2019, 09:57 PM
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Default Uh...

I think you are dreaming to build a -10 in 14 months...

$225k is a pretty good number...
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Old 02-12-2019, 10:18 PM
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The Cirrus handles like a truck compared to the -10. The side yoke is spring loaded to center. I have a friend that owns one, it sure seems to need a lot of maintenance. I am a fan of Lycomings, not so much turbocharged Continentals.

Why build a -10, there are some very nice flying planes available for the price range you mentioned.
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Old 02-13-2019, 12:01 AM
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You haven't said what your typical trip load is. Trying to compare typical trips (maybe full fuel for both), the -10 can also carry 4 people (depending on their weights, of course). The G3, 3 people (or only 2 if they average over 180 lbs.).
If you only plan on 1 or 2 people, this doesn't matter. Three or four, it's a real factor.
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Old 02-13-2019, 04:56 AM
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I'm not a fan of either (conventional u/c only for me) but when you compare apples with apples then you need to do so money wise. The two a/c really are diff to each other in many ways so they are not a good comparison to each other.
If wank factor is yr scene the Cirrus has it all over the clunking looking Vans 10 but value for money nothing beats a Vans of any description!
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Old 02-13-2019, 07:01 AM
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The Cirrus is an ifr xc machine with high wing loading. Heavy controls are appropriate for that mission. At one point, van?s advertised the -10 as a four seat sport plane. Higher wing loading, better ride in turbulence at speed. Low wing loading, better takeoff, especially at higher density altitudes.

I?d gladly trade my -8 and -9A for a -10.
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Old 02-13-2019, 07:05 AM
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You might be a redneck, if you land on grass.

Or, you might be an RV-10 owner, if you land on grass.

Very few Cirrus owners take theirs to grass strips, even Triple Tree.
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Old 02-13-2019, 07:29 AM
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I think you are dreaming to build a -10 in 14 months...

$225k is a pretty good number...
Like I said I built my 7 in 10 months. I think If i spend 6 hours a day at 250 days a year (that's 1500 hours), I should be able to get it done in 14-16 months. This is my second one to build, already have all the stupid questions out of the way. I would love to know what is going to slow me down the most though.

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You haven't said what your typical trip load is. Trying to compare typical trips (maybe full fuel for both), the -10 can also carry 4 people (depending on their weights, of course). The G3, 3 people (or only 2 if they average over 180 lbs.).
If you only plan on 1 or 2 people, this doesn't matter. Three or four, it's a real factor.
So, the mission is two adults, two kids under 8. I want it full IFR like my 7. Will do a 750 with 3 10" garmin screens etc.


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The Cirrus is an ifr xc machine with high wing loading. Heavy controls are appropriate for that mission. At one point, van?s advertised the -10 as a four seat sport plane. Higher wing loading, better ride in turbulence at speed. Low wing loading, better takeoff, especially at higher density altitudes.

I?d gladly trade my -8 and -9A for a -10.
Cross country is my exact mission. Vacations, etc. RV's are fast and well suited to that I believe.

Hows the noise level in 10's anyone? All general AC are a little loud. I will sound proof this one to the nines...
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