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Old 02-05-2019, 07:44 AM
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I, too, would remove either the D10A or the three analog instruments at the top... My personal preference would be to remove the analog. Can't comment on Dynon vs. Garmin, i'd say try both, price both (including yearly update costs) and decide based on that. Both have great options.
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Old 02-05-2019, 07:50 AM
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I fly professionally and havent used marker beacons in like 20 years. Id skip the cost of them.
I am curious: don't you have towers that
wont let you land unless you have full
ILS system - including the markers.

Can you guys share your expirience here?
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Old 02-05-2019, 11:28 AM
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Never used those, can you give us some
more details, in what cases you use them?
I have a remote mounted GD40 with a test and light on my panel. It's integrated with the EFIS but if CO2 gets higher than a particular level it will alert me. Much more accurate than those stick on detectors.
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Old 02-05-2019, 11:44 AM
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I am curious: don't you have towers that
wont let you land unless you have full
ILS system - including the markers.

Can you guys share your expirience here?

Dont get me wrong, we have them... however no one listens to them or watches for the little lights. On most ils’s the markers have been named with gps referenced fixes. The inner markers normanlly are not but on aircraft going that low you are looking at radar altimeter by then (or synthetic vision or huds).

https://www.ivao.aero/training/docum...ion_Marker.pdf
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Old 02-05-2019, 12:50 PM
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Cool some ideas

Nice layout.

Why not a "push button" start? like most cars these days.

Get rid of the "steam" gauges. No need. for redundancy, perhaps think about another 650 instead. One 650 for each side for each MFD.

The 650 has comms and VOR. So you get two GPS, two comms, two VOR.

Think about getting rid of all the breakers and install the hidden controller systems a lot of guys have.

Most "right handed" pilots all learned to fly with their Left hand (right hand for throttle, avionics, etc...). For a two-place front seat this makes the most sense.
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Old 02-06-2019, 01:23 PM
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My random observations in no particular order:

1. Eliminate the steam gauges entirely. The AI will require a vacuum pump. Save the weight and eliminate a part you'll have to replace every ~500 hours or so. As for the airspeed indicator and altimeter, you have two backups in the form of the PFD (in reversionary mode) and the D10A. In my opinion, adding those steam gauges is overkill. Also, consider an battery backup for the EFIS such as the one made by TWC Tech.

2. There is a school of thought that says use a different manufacturer for your backup AI/Alt/AS/DG. Supposedly if there is a software glitch one of the boxes, it's in all of them. I don't know if there is any actual data to support that notion, but it's something to consider.

3. I can't read your switch labels, but I would consider grouping switches by general function (e.g. lights) with enough space between them so it's easier to find the correct one. Critical switches should be isolated from non-critical switches. For example, it's a bad idea to put the avionics master next to the fuel pump. I'd hate to be on the ILS in the muck and accidentally turn off the entire panel trying to switch on the fuel pump. In this case, I'd isolate the fuel pump switch by itself. Don't bury it in the group.

4. Don't consider the panel in isolation from the rest of the pilot interface with the aircraft. Consider what functions you should locate on the stick and how that will dovetail with the functions on the panel. There are several great threads on stick switches that go into considerable detail. I'll leave you to search them out.

Good luck and keep us appraised of your progress. This is the most fun part of building an airplane (for me anyway).
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Old 02-06-2019, 02:16 PM
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I am curious: don't you have towers that
wont let you land unless you have full
ILS system - including the markers.

Can you guys share your expirience here?
I had it in my old plane, used it once to see if it works. After that, I never had a use for it. I have not installed one in the new plane.
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Old 02-06-2019, 03:33 PM
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Would you need the artificial horizon if you install a second ADAHRS?

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Old 02-06-2019, 04:05 PM
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Just throwing in my personal opinion?s 2-cents worth here, but i think you have more than adequate refundancy with the left skyview and the D-10. If I were designing this, I would delete the steam gauges...
Second that. Antiquated and you already have backups (I assume you intend to install the usual backup batteries that are available for whatever devices).
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Old 02-06-2019, 04:10 PM
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BTW, I find the audio panel on this design WAY too far over to the right. I'd put it above the 650, in a "traditional" radio stack manner.
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