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02-04-2019, 01:52 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Sebastopol,CA
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Just throwing in my personal opinion?s 2-cents worth here, but i think you have more than adequate refundancy with the left skyview and the D-10. If I were designing this, I would delete the steam guages and the right-side skyview and use the money saved to upgrade from the GTN 650 to the far more user friendly GTN 750, which would then serve as an excelent second ?MFD? for displaying things like traffic, weather, IFR plates, etc. I would then use the space freed up on the right side to install a ram-mount supporting an 11? iPad pro running ForeFlight or whatever app is best suited to sharing skyview air date with the iPad. The ram mount allows you to tilt the iPad directly at the pilot?s face for a very pilot-centric system with more options and utility than you will have with that second skyview that the pilot has to lean over to look at.
I have great respect the Dynon Skyview products, but would also encourage at least a look at the Garmin G3X touch with a G5 for backup, which results in a system the really works well with the iPad and talks nicely to the GTN. You can do your flight planning on the iPad and squirt that (and software updates as well) right into the G3X system. There are probably ways to accomplish this with Skyview as well, but all-garmin is really good for consistent iconography and a simplified learning curve as much is shared between the G3Xand the GTN, which you will need to master in any event. Just a thought- Dynon is great too and much-loved by many pilots.
Here is a plywood and and photo-mockup of the all-Garmin system I am working on for my 7A. Only the iPad and phone are real.- Otis

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02-04-2019, 02:13 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Dogwood Airpark (VA42)
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Some thoughts:
- D10A over the G5 - it is far more capable and where you have it there is no behind the panel space issue.
- I installed an altimeter and airspeed analog instruments in my RV-10 above the GTN-650 as you have it (good use of the shallower space). I found I alway use the airpeed instrument for takeoffs and landings, never in cruise or climb. I also found I never used the altimeter - it got deleted on the new RV-8 panel.
- The rocker switches seem to be in style - but they take up a lot of valuable panel space. There are other options to explore.
- The Knob panel is used more than anything else. Consider putting it low, right in front of your left hand.
Carl
Last edited by Carl Froehlich : 02-04-2019 at 02:16 PM.
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02-04-2019, 02:19 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Ponte Vedra, FL
Posts: 1,474
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My two thoughts "out of the box":
1. Seems a bit busy for my taste. Is that much capability / redundancy really needed? (in particular I'm referring to the 3 large dials top center - lots of space for information that is also on the PFD/MFD/Backup screens). There's a lot to be said for simplicity and using the capability of the primary systems (Dynon Skyview in your case) to maximum effect.
2. Having just wrapped up most of my panel work, I found space behind the panel to be at a premium. Think really hard about that and plan carefully where every box, and all the wiring you'll need (as well as air lines, etc). will go....
Last edited by mturnerb : 02-04-2019 at 02:29 PM.
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02-04-2019, 03:17 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Oklahoma City
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My advice is to sit in the plane do the typical print out bit or just try and visualize where everything is going to go. I spent years working through my panel design during the build and now it's perfect.... for me that is. That's the thing you're the one flying it and we all have our favorite vendors or preferences on various aspects.
My preferences;
- I prefer the two glass panels in front of the left seat, because I'm flying. If I was doing some dual pilot set up, or wanted to fly from the right then obviously I wouldn't like my panel.
- I see no value in steam gauges. I actually love the look of them but they take up a lot of space, limited in capability compared to say a D10/G5.
- I like my audio panel and AP head in a typical radio stack configuration with the AP head above the panel. I prefer not to look down to fiddle with things.
- As already mentioned I don't see the need for Marker Beacons. With your IFR GPS there is no need for a marker beacon. But if you're used to and love that sound then by all means keep them.
- I love rocker switches, when you light them all up it looks amazing! Just make sure you're happy with whatever switch layout you end up with.
Ultimately you're the one flying so take suggestions (Including mine) with a grain of salt.
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02-04-2019, 08:30 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Laguna Hills, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AviatorJ
- I see no value in steam gauges. I actually love the look of them...
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That's the value for some of us.
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02-04-2019, 11:46 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Canby
Posts: 40
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CO
Where is the CO detector?
It is essential!
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02-05-2019, 12:12 AM
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Join Date: May 2018
Location: Israel
Posts: 108
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Frisbie
Where is the CO detector?
It is essential!
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Never used those, can you give us some
more details, in what cases you use them?
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02-05-2019, 04:38 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 51
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Radio
After a few hours I moved the skyview radio closer by swopping with the skyview intercom as I found it too far away. Yours looks far away to the right.
Like mine was.
Even using the “tune com” button on the skyview you still need to push buttons on the radio and CHECK you have the right freq.
And selecting dual often. Fiddly. Hard to see if not in front of you.
BUT looks like you will use the garmin 650 as main radio.
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Last edited by VPYVO : 02-05-2019 at 04:42 AM.
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02-05-2019, 05:26 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Dallas/Ft Worth, TX
Posts: 5,686
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Not an RV14 but one that I recently completed on an RV9...
Clean, functional and works like magic.

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02-05-2019, 06:11 AM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Rescue, CA. KROB
Posts: 352
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I fly professionally and havent used marker beacons in like 20 years. Id skip the cost of them.
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