Any reason for A&P to get a repairman certificate?

[rvbuilder2002]

Originally Posted by skylor

One reason the obtain a repairman's certificate for you build is that there is no currency requirement. I believe an A&P certificate does have currency requirements?

Skylor

IA does.

A&P does not.

[WingsOnWheels]

I have an A&P license, but plan to get the repairman cert as well. An A&P license has a currency requirement, but as far as I know, a repairman cert does not. I figure it is better to have it and not need it.... doesnt hurt either way.

[WingsOnWheels]

Originally Posted by rvbuilder2002

IA does.

A&P does not.

Last time I looked and spoke to the FSDO it did.

[Tim Lewis]

Originally Posted by Cannon

I?m not sure why it didn?t occur to me sooner, but since I already have an A&P, is there ANY reason to go through the hassle?

Chris

FAR 65.83 imposes a recent experience requirement on mechanics:

? 65.83 Recent experience requirements.
A certificated mechanic may not exercise the privileges of his certificate and rating unless, within the preceding 24 months -
(a) The Administrator has found that he is able to do that work; or
(b) He has, for at least 6 months -
(1) Served as a mechanic under his certificate and rating;
(2) Technically supervised other mechanics;
(3) Supervised, in an executive capacity, the maintenance or alteration of aircraft; or
(4) Been engaged in any combination of paragraph (b) (1), (2), or (3) of this section.

I'm not aware of a similar requirement imposed on repairmen.

[WingsOnWheels]

Originally Posted by Tim Lewis

FAR 65.83 imposes a recent experience requirement on mechanics:

? 65.83 Recent experience requirements.
A certificated mechanic may not exercise the privileges of his certificate and rating unless, within the preceding 24 months -
(a) The Administrator has found that he is able to do that work; or
(b) He has, for at least 6 months -
(1) Served as a mechanic under his certificate and rating;
(2) Technically supervised other mechanics;
(3) Supervised, in an executive capacity, the maintenance or alteration of aircraft; or
(4) Been engaged in any combination of paragraph (b) (1), (2), or (3) of this section.

I'm not aware of a similar requirement imposed on repairmen.

Thank you for posting, that is the wording I recall. I guess currency was the wrong term though.

[506DC]

Originally Posted by Tim Lewis

FAR 65.83 imposes a recent experience requirement on mechanics:

? 65.83 Recent experience requirements.
A certificated mechanic may not exercise the privileges of his certificate and rating unless, within the preceding 24 months -
(a) The Administrator has found that he is able to do that work; or
(b) He has, for at least 6 months -
(1) Served as a mechanic under his certificate and rating;
(2) Technically supervised other mechanics;
(3) Supervised, in an executive capacity, the maintenance or alteration of aircraft; or
(4) Been engaged in any combination of paragraph (b) (1), (2), or (3) of this section.

I'm not aware of a similar requirement imposed on repairmen.

I am sure they changed the requirement for a repairman certificate but when I finished my plane, they automatically gave me the certificate so it was a no brainer;however, if you will reference (b)4, working on your own aircraft would qualify you for recent aircraft experience. That would be a good reason to get the certificate just to keep your A&P active.

[rvbuilder2002]

Originally Posted by 506DC

however, if you will reference (b)4, working on your own aircraft would qualify you for recent aircraft experience.

Exactly

Originally Posted by 506DC

That would be a good reason to get the certificate just to keep your A&P active.

If working on your own aircraft met the recent experience qualification, I don't see why you would need the Repairman Cert to keep your A&P Cert. active.
By simply working on it (which you need no certificate at all to do) you are meeting the requirement.
I imagine that someone could argue that since the A&P Cert. is not required to work on an experimental (other than to do a condition inspection) that an A&P doing work on his own RV doesn't meet the "for at least 6 months" requirement.

I am employed full time as an A&P that works exclusively on experimental aircraft. I interface with the FAA regularly and they know that. They consider me an active A&P that meets the recent experience requirement.

[rvbuilder2002]

Originally Posted by WingsOnWheels

Last time I looked and spoke to the FSDO it did.

My post was meant in the context of anything needed to be done outside of actually working on an aircraft, to maintain currency (such as an IA renewal seminar, etc.).
If an A&P was maintaining and inspecting their own aircraft (or working on it during the build... leading up to certification), by definition they would be meeting the requirement without doing anything in addition to that.
In that context, a Repairman Certificate is not needed.

[Lynnb]

So is there a time limit after you finish the plane that you have to apply for the repairman's cert? Or can you do it anytime, even say 10yrs after first flight?

[RV7ator]

You've spent years and thousands of manhours manufacturing an airplane, why would you not expend the additional trivial effort (one form, show up at the FSDO with ID) to receive the Repairman's? Do it at the same time as completing the AW documentation.

Now it may just be that living in an aviation friendly state (Idaho) with a local sensible FSDO blinds me to the travails of some builders. But I think way too many slave over extensive documentation, ridiculously beyond what's needed to establish your 51% bonefides. For five builds, I never offered a photo of in-progress work, simply a holographic terse log of activity, later shifting to word-processed, but the content was no more expansive. No problem. With abundant witness, stacks of receipts, and shop-heating power bills, my builder status was never at issue. Don't waste time doing more than you NEED to do; put your time into doing something significant, like obtaining the RC.

Making a family heirloom album? Uh huh. No one, including the builder, is going to be interested five years hence.

Get off this thread and start riveting!

John Siebold