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01-28-2019, 07:08 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Moorpark, CA
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Any reason for A&P to get a repairman certificate?
I?m a couple of years into my RV-8 build and have been documenting the build for the day I apply for my repairman certificate.
I?m not sure why it didn?t occur to me sooner, but since I already have an A&P, is there ANY reason to go through the hassle? I certainly don?t need any more certificates - I have more than enough already.
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01-28-2019, 07:21 PM
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Only thing I can think of is if certificate action is taken against your AP you loose the ability to make money but could still sign off your CI. A bit of a stretch, but still a possibility.
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01-28-2019, 07:29 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2010
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Originally Posted by Maxrate
Only thing I can think of is if certificate action is taken against your AP you loose the ability to make money but could still sign off your CI. A bit of a stretch, but still a possibility.
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^^^This^^^
And of course, bragging rights.

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01-28-2019, 07:50 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Naples fl
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Why
If you're one of those people that like collecting certificates go ahead. The feds will definitely appreciate the pointless paperwork and may start questioning your sanity and start looking into if you should continue to hold your privilege to have a A&P. Do not forget it is a privalege not a right and they can screw with you from many directions.
As a A&P you should know this. Would a MD get a RN degree? They could if they wanted to but why would they?
The only reason would be if you worried about certificate action against your A&P and if that's the case I doubt they'd want you near any airplane.
This sort of reminds me of the guy in a B-757 systems class when we were going through emergency landing gear extension. The instructor trying to make a joke said "don't ask how they retract the gear in a emergency". On cue one guy asked "why don't they have a emergency retraction?". There was always one of those guys in every class I attended.
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01-28-2019, 07:55 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Naples fl
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I understand now, you're a professional pilot. Not a jab, no malice intended, just general animosity that exists between line maintenance airline guys and the pilots we have to deal with.
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01-28-2019, 08:49 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Moorpark, CA
Posts: 157
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy123
This sort of reminds me of the guy in a B-757 systems class when we were going through emergency landing gear extension. The instructor trying to make a joke said "don't ask how they retract the gear in a emergency". On cue one guy asked "why don't they have a emergency retraction?". There was always one of those guys in every class I attended.
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We can?t stand those guys, either. Now imagine he?s your sim partner for 4 weeks... ugh.
I only work on my own airplanes, so I think I?m going to pass on the repairman cert. If I ball up an airplane because I screwed something up and the feds get involved, I?ll have bigger things to worry about than my A&P.
I?m taking enough pics to document the build for when my kids want to sell it, but I?m not going to go crazy anymore.
Thanks everyone.
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01-28-2019, 09:07 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Naples fl
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It may make sense to use a repairman's certificate to sign off your 8 if you sell it to a idiot that does something stupid and the estate goes after you. Maybe it will protect your A&P, maybe not, couldn't hurt to get one but I'd wait for the smoke to clear because fed employees aren't very happy right now. That way your A&P number wouldn't be all over the log books, the estates's lawyer couldn't drag your expected higher qualification into the case. It's all about CYA. They might not ever know about your A&P. I'd get one and use it on the 8.
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01-28-2019, 09:45 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Southern California
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Rapairman's Cert
One reason the obtain a repairman's certificate for you build is that there is no currency requirement. I believe an A&P certificate does have currency requirements?
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01-28-2019, 09:47 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 114
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy123
It may make sense to use a repairman's certificate to sign off your 8 if you sell it to a idiot that does something stupid and the estate goes after you. Maybe it will protect your A&P, maybe not, couldn't hurt to get one but I'd wait for the smoke to clear because fed employees aren't very happy right now. That way your A&P number wouldn't be all over the log books, the estates's lawyer couldn't drag your expected higher qualification into the case. It's all about CYA. They might not ever know about your A&P. I'd get one and use it on the 8.
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Any lawyer who failed to do that sort of basic research would be bordering on malpractice. I wouldn't count on using a Repairman's certificate to avoid being found out as an A&P.
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01-28-2019, 11:15 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hubbard Oregon
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Keep in mind that documenting the build is for more than just getting a Repairman cert.
It is to also prove meeting the build requirements for being eligible for amateur built certification.
I do agree that there is no point in applying for the repairman cert.
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