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01-21-2019, 11:41 AM
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Join Date: May 2017
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 205
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hangar design, price and plans!
We are building a 14A in a 40x60 barn. We are only using about 1/2 the space. But everyone says, whatever you build it will be too small in due time. So build as big as you can!
If you want to see what it will cost and print plans to get an idea of the layout once you design your hangar go to https://www.rapidsetbuildings.com/ and click on get a quote online in the blue bar above. There is a video to show you how to use the system.
And we just made a new feature where once you are done with your design at the end of the plans being processed you can virtually walk around or walk through the hangar you just designed. I think you will find it really cool.
The best part is it is free!
Make sure to look at the "Advanced mode" video if you want to get complex with your design.
Thanks, Larry
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01-21-2019, 11:57 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Seminole Tx (GNC)
Posts: 59
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Originally Posted by az_gila
I'll throw another variation into the mix...
Trade some hangar space for a separate workshop building that is at least 2 car size with big access doors.
You will work much better in the smaller space that can be better insulated than a hangar and heated and cooled.
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I have a 40x80 insulated hanger at my house and I have a hard time keeping it warm in the winter, I plan to add a 25x40 work shop with large door
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01-21-2019, 12:57 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: San Pedro
Posts: 1,013
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Speaking from theory here
I am envious of anyone with any size hanger! Here in Taxyafornia, it seldom freezes but I do appreciate a heated space in which to work in the colder evenings - so, like Az Gilla, I recommend that you either create a 'workshop inside of your 'large' hanger or adjacent to your hanger.
My choice would be to build a workshop adjacent to and attached (or not) to your hanger. Insulate the workshop all around including the floor and ceiling. Include a bathroom so you don't have to leave the shop in order to take care of business. Add a shower and a 'slop sink'. Maybe a washer and dryer also. All of that keeps the 'soiled' clothes, etc inside of the shop and you don't have to take anything that is dirty into your house to be washed. Your wife will likely appreciate all of that. Heater and AC as required. Add plenty of power circuits and lighting. Add a vacuum system to the build. Stove and refrigerator. Good luck with making your dream facility come true. The above is mine!
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01-21-2019, 01:30 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Pocahontas MS
Posts: 3,884
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I agree about building a smaller space for your shop; much easier to heat/cool, and it will make building more efficient. I built an entire -7 airframe including hanging the engine in a roughly 20x20 space that had about 5x6 notched out for a restroom. All the components except the canopy are in the room, too. Obviously the wings/tail aren't mounted in that space, but the completed components are stored in the room. Heated with one little natural gas space heater, cooled (marginally) by a 5000 btu window unit.
Hangar size is almost like boat size. The usable space seems to go up rapidly with minor increases in dimensions. I wouldn't want less than around 50x50 for convenience (pulling one a/c out without moving the other), but you could get by with much less. I've seen a Stinson 108 & four Globe Swifts in one 48x50 hangar.
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01-21-2019, 01:33 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Bowie MD
Posts: 886
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IMHO, build a 40x40 or 40x60 deep hangar (not wide). Insulate it, drop the ceiling to 15' and heat it with a large wood stove and a ceiling fan or two. If your wing span will allow, put in a 32' garage door (the largest garage door available). Much cheaper than any other door and you can move it manually. If you have to have wider, consider a movable center post for two garage doors - its not rocket science. Build a second 40x40 (or 60) right next to it that shares the long wall. Thats your un-heated and un-insulated place and put your movable and or completed projects in it, cars, trucks etc - "covered storage". Get a cat to police it.
After several projects over the past 40 yrs (some still in the works) I found despite the moaning, a tight work shop is a happier work shop cause you tend to be very efficient about how you use your space - shelving, rafter, electrical hooks, compressed air hooks, over head lights etc and dont have to walk all over the place to get tools, or have a complete second set of everything. Did I mention its also warmer, cozier, and you can actually hear the radio without it blaring?
Kinda like big houses, everyone aspires to them, but once youre in, theyre an echo chamber warehouse and it can have its pitfalls...rain leaks, drafts, snow loads, floor cracks, mice etc....
OR just have at it and build a monster 100'x100' and have all your friends come over to drool at it....while you try to figure out where that **** 1/4" socket rolled to this time.....
Just my .02 (BTW I have airpark property......)
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01-21-2019, 01:57 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 924
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My hangar is a 60' X 72' Morton building. It has a 12' tall X 50' stack door on it. I built a 16' X 32' workshop in the back corner of it with 8' ceiling. It's got 3-8' 2 bulb high output cold weather fluorescent lights in it, I like lots of light. It's insulated really well, heated and a/c'd. I just have a small bar sink in it. I piped air into it for drills and rivet guns & such. I also put a 7' X 9' garage door in the end of it that opens up into the hangar, so I can roll projects in and out of it.
Another thing I did was to put in a door bell. The hangar has 5 trusses, with 3 of the same lights as I have in my room, on each truss. I tied the door bell transformer in with the front/first row of lights so that when/if someone comes in the hangar, it rings in my room. I built my own switch for the door bell with a model airplane bellcrank and a spring from a ball-point pen. It shorts out against the walk-thru door.
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01-21-2019, 02:41 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Bowie MD
Posts: 886
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RV10Man
My hangar is a 60' X 72' Morton building. It has a 12' tall X 50' stack door on it.
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How do you like that Morton? Worth the cost? Whats a stack door? Is that something Morton did?
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Busby MustangII (FoldingWing) Pending DAR.
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01-21-2019, 02:55 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Leesburg, VA
Posts: 551
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Simple advice
I would only give the same advice for building a hangar that I would give to someone building an airplane: Someday you will have to sell it. Build accordingly.
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01-21-2019, 02:58 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
Posts: 15,420
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/17gl...ew?usp=sharing
We built a 40x56' with 16' walls. Motorhome parking, office, build shop, half bath. Second story storage and workshop for Laura to do her stained glass work. If I were to do over, would push the 40' to 42'.
Wood framed, insulation and sheetrock ongoing project. Will have 3 natural gas heaters---- in build shop, upstairs shop, and main hangar. Office and bathroom electrical heat.
Wish I could get the image to show, but the link is as good as I (actually DR) could do. Stairs moved to inside shop, did not want to move motorhome out to take stuff upstairs.
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01-21-2019, 03:14 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 924
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maniago
How do you like that Morton? Worth the cost? Whats a stack door? Is that something Morton did?
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I really like the Morton buildings. My plumbing & electric shop is a Morton building also (42 X 75). I like the wood frame, easier to work with, straight walls with wood to mount/hang conduit, water, gas, air, etc to.
Also, I bought from Morton, it's brought to the site on a Morton truck, erected by a Morton crew. When I had a minor water leak, I called my salesman. He sent someone out immediately. No finger pointing at "who put it up"? Morton has excellent warranty too.
The Horton Stack Door is made/built by Horton Industries in Wellington, KS, the same company that makes the Horton STOL kits. They worked with Morton to get the header for the door just right. It's been up for 22 years now & I have no issues at all with it.
Last edited by RV10Man : 01-21-2019 at 03:16 PM.
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