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01-05-2019, 09:32 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2012
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New FAA rules for EAB
Greetings all,
I was intrigued to see a bit in EAA's latest publication regarding new FAA rules that would allow a non-builder to get repairman's certificate privileges for his/her plane after taking a brief course specific to the make/model owned. Did I read more into that than is there? Is there anyone here that is more familiar with the proposed change that can expand on its details? Seems like it could be a great thing for us non-builders in the fold.
Thanks,
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01-05-2019, 09:52 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2014
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Curious as to where you read this... Can you quote chapter and verse?
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01-05-2019, 10:05 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NC25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnnybgoode
Greetings all,
I was intrigued to see a bit in EAA's latest publication regarding new FAA rules that would allow a non-builder to get repairman's certificate privileges for his/her plane after taking a brief course specific to the make/model owned. Did I read more into that than is there? Is there anyone here that is more familiar with the proposed change that can expand on its details? Seems like it could be a great thing for us non-builders in the fold.
Thanks,
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It is NOT a rule. E-LSA can be inspected by a Repairman that is not a builder after taking a course. EAA is talking to the FAA to see what would be necessary to get the same thing for Experimental Amateur Built. Talk will not become a rule but could lead to a rule many years down the road.
This may be what you read: https://www.eaa.org/eaa/news-and-pub...rd-With-MOSAIC
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To most people, the sky is the limit.
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Last edited by RV6_flyer : 01-05-2019 at 10:07 AM.
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01-05-2019, 12:06 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2012
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clarification
Yes, perhaps I mis-stated the question. It is not a rule at this time, but a proposal/conversation, according to the article in Sport Aviation this month.
Thanks for helping to straighten me out.
Patrick
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01-05-2019, 03:33 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
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This may come across as just plain grumpy, but I thought this article was pretty poorly written. Two thirds of it was pretty much just an ad for how great EAA is; I was hoping for a lot more detail on any proposed changes, or in the alternative, if there are none yet, perhaps it should have been written after some are on the drawing board.
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01-05-2019, 03:56 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Originally Posted by RV7A Flyer
This may come across as just plain grumpy, but I thought this article was pretty poorly written. Two thirds of it was pretty much just an ad for how great EAA is; I was hoping for a lot more detail on any proposed changes, or in the alternative, if there are none yet, perhaps it should have been written after some are on the drawing board.
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They say great minds think alike. (I agree with your assessment.)
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NC25 RV-6 Flying
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Where is N157GS
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To most people, the sky is the limit.
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01-06-2019, 08:00 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Garden City, Tx
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RV7A Flyer
This may come across as just plain grumpy, but I thought this article was pretty poorly written. Two thirds of it was pretty much just an ad for how great EAA is; I was hoping for a lot more detail on any proposed changes, or in the alternative, if there are none yet, perhaps it should have been written after some are on the drawing board.
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(grumblegrumblegrumble... ya think?)
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Built an off-plan RV9A with too much fuel and too much HP. Should drop dead any minute now. 
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01-06-2019, 08:01 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Garden City, Tx
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RV7A Flyer
This may come across as just plain grumpy, but I thought this article was pretty poorly written. Two thirds of it was pretty much just an ad for how great EAA is; I was hoping for a lot more detail on any proposed changes, or in the alternative, if there are none yet, perhaps it should have been written after some are on the drawing board.
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(grumblegrumblegrumble... ya think?)
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Greg Niehues - SEL, IFR, Repairman Cert.
Garden City, TX VAF 2020 dues paid
N16GN flying 700 hrs and counting; IO360, SDS, WWRV200, Dynon HDX, 430W
Built an off-plan RV9A with too much fuel and too much HP. Should drop dead any minute now.
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01-07-2019, 09:07 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Bell, FL
Posts: 380
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnnybgoode
Greetings all,
I was intrigued to see a bit in EAA's latest publication regarding new FAA rules that would allow a non-builder to get repairman's certificate privileges for his/her plane after taking a brief course specific to the make/model owned. Did I read more into that than is there? Is there anyone here that is more familiar with the proposed change that can expand on its details? Seems like it could be a great thing for us non-builders in the fold.
Thanks,
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I don't know that "a brief course" should qualify one for a repairman's cert. However, if one has built an RV it would make sense that one's repairman's cert could be expanded to cover other RVs (or at least RV types). I sure would like to be able to use my RV-3 repairman's cert for the other RV-3 I purchased and currently am flying. But, because both my RV-3s had/has Mazda Wankel engines, I would not expect it to cover Lycoming powered RV-3s. So applications for expansion really should include documentation of builder experience and similarities of aircraft built and aircraft that the cert is be expanded to cover.
Finn
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01-07-2019, 12:25 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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The current repairman's certificate allows a person that has never taken apart a Honda 90 (example) motor, timed a motor, rebuilt a carb or installed a spark plug, to dig in and inspect a Lycoming..... only because they bolted it onto an airframe that they assembled from a pre punched kit.
A course should be required before anyone gets a repairman's cert.
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