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Old 12-12-2018, 07:49 PM
Michael Henning Michael Henning is offline
 
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Is it a safe time to do the ADSB upgrades? Or should we wait to see what comes out six months from now?
I?m thinking about the Trig Adsb package along with an MGL panel/radio.
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Old 12-13-2018, 06:20 AM
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With a year remaining until the deadline, I wouldn't drag my feet on doing the upgrade. As always, the technology will improve and the cost will come down, but most likely there will not be any cheap revolutionary solutions in the next year. If you are planning on having an avionics shop complete the upgrade, they will certainly be swamped as the deadline approaches. Many will choose the minimum (cheapest) solution, that being a simple ADS-B OUT requirement. The real benefit of the system can only be appreciated by doing a full "IN" upgrade. Of course, as always, the checkbook makes the final decision. My advice would be to get the most bang for your buck now and be done with it.
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Old 12-13-2018, 06:27 AM
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Is it a safe time to do the ADSB upgrades? Or should we wait to see what comes out six months from now?
I?m thinking about the Trig Adsb package along with an MGL panel/radio.
Don't give up the beauty of having traffic and weather. Enjoy it now.
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Old 12-13-2018, 12:59 PM
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Don't give up the beauty of having traffic and weather. Enjoy it now.
I second (or third) the recommendation for adsb-in. Make sure everything works together. e.g., if going for an MGL display what adsb-in sources does it support? Also, will it supply the Trig with altitude data (I presume yes). For example:
I have a GRT HX. It can remotely control a TT22 (save panel space). I use a Garmin 420W as a position source, but could use either the Trig or GRT gps if I didn?t already have the 420W. I use a (bought factory reconditioned) Skyradar D2 for ADSB-in, which both the GRT HX, and my iPad, can read and display. Before pulling the trigger on the MGL, think of the whole package of what you want.
Note: make sure you get the TT22, not the TT21. The 21 doesn?t meet the specs for adsb here in the US.
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Old 12-13-2018, 08:48 PM
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Hi Bob,
I am looking at the iEFIS Lite (8.5?), RDAC, compass module, Trig TT22 adsb transponder w/WAAS gps source, pathfinder adsb in. All components speak to each other. More than likely, I will be incorporating the V16 radio w/Vega head.
Thanks for input, and merry Christmas to all.
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Old 12-14-2018, 04:27 AM
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Weather is great and I wouldn't be without it.
Traffic is a mixed bag - in my opinion a half baked solution that is dangerously misleading under many condition, and not at all worth the effort if it wasn't included. My old Zaon is still in the panel, and I trust it just about as much.

If you are in mode C space, then you need to take the leap soon. If not, you could always keep XM weather and find a used Zaon. FAR cheaper. Just as useful to the pilot.
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Old 12-14-2018, 05:55 AM
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My old Terra transponder bit the dust so I just decided if I need a new transponder anyways, might as well get one with ADSB out. So I got the Stratus ESG.

Wow!! Now I get all the Fis-B traffic. After seeing the difference, I can say that I would have upgraded just for the full traffic picture even if there was no mandatory 2020 deadline.

On another note. I think it is sad the FAA (which is supposed to be so concerned with safety) restricts the traffic we see unless we have ADSB in.
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Old 12-14-2018, 08:42 AM
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If you have an E-AB aircraft and can install the equipment yourself, you could wait a while, but don't expect the cost to go down. If you have a certificated (Standard Category) aircraft, I would schedule it now. The avionics shops in the Minneapolis area are booked into next spring.
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Old 12-14-2018, 09:45 AM
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Hi Bob,
I am looking at the iEFIS Lite (8.5?), RDAC, compass module, Trig TT22 adsb transponder w/WAAS gps source, pathfinder adsb in. All components speak to each other. More than likely, I will be incorporating the V16 radio w/Vega head.
Thanks for input, and merry Christmas to all.
Just a heads-up... the Pathfinder ADSB receiver is single frequency (978 UAT) only. There are real advantages to going with a dual-frequency ADSB-In solution.
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Old 12-14-2018, 01:02 PM
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On another note. I think it is sad the FAA (which is supposed to be so concerned with safety) restricts the traffic we see unless we have ADSB in.
Did you mean ?out??
Where did you get the idea safety was involved? Remember adsb-in is not required, and wasn?t even in the original proposal. ADSB is about long term cost savings for the FAA, by eliminating ground controllers and radar.
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