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12-04-2018, 12:03 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Fargo, ND
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Isham vs Cleveland...uh...Cleaveland
hope i am not starting a low wing vs high wing debate here (i am guessing everyone is a low wing fan like me here  ).
Considering which tools to buy, i will go for a kit with little upgrades like Pneumatic squeezer, DRDT2 etc, the rv 1- kit from Isham have those, the cleveland ones doesnt and still costs almost the same. i have heard cleveland tools are far better, but there is some endless debate on that (why is everything in aviation such a debate?)
anyway, thoughts?
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12-04-2018, 12:06 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Olathe, KS
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I am happy with the Isham kit. That being said, I had them delete the dimple dies and rivet sets, and I purchased those high quality parts from Cleveland.
Best of both worlds.
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12-04-2018, 12:10 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Collinsville, IL
Posts: 620
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I bought the Isham kit about 10 years ago to get the DRDT-2 and pneumatic sqeezer included. Good quality tools and I think a great value. I also have some Cleveland tools and they are good quality also - and they come to Airventure.
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12-04-2018, 01:07 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Eden Prairie, MN
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Both are great (in my opinion)
I bought my initial kit from Isham including the DRDT and pneumatic squeezer and was very happy with all the tools included in the kit. I've also purchased quite a number of individual items from Cleveland either through the mail or at Oshkosh. Both are great outfits to work with and provide great service.
Somehow or the other I managed to bend the adjustable rivet set for the pneumatic squeezer (which BTW I'd highly recommend vs. using washers to shim for proper squeeze), I called Isham to order a new one and much to my surprise he shipped me a replacement at no cost even though it was my misuse which caused the failure.
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12-04-2018, 02:37 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Austinville, Alabama
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Cleaveland
Cleaveland...Cleaveland...Cleaveland
...not...Cleveland.
Just a nit of mine. They're in Iowa, not Ohio, and I have no idea why they spell it with two "a's." It's pronounced the same, but it's spelled with an extra "a."
Rant off. 
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12-04-2018, 04:20 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Fargo, ND
Posts: 15
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Thanks everyone... i am talking to Cleaveland and i will talk to Isham as well, they are using a lot of names that i have no idea what to do with..for example the pneumatic squeezer have an option of a some 7 different yokes. http://www.cleavelandtool.com/Pneuma...s/products/52/
just trying to understand the tools required is making my head spin
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12-04-2018, 04:50 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Ponte Vedra, FL
Posts: 1,474
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WannFly
Thanks everyone... i am talking to Cleaveland and i will talk to Isham as well, they are using a lot of names that i have no idea what to do with..for example the pneumatic squeezer have an option of a some 7 different yokes. http://www.cleavelandtool.com/Pneuma...s/products/52/
just trying to understand the tools required is making my head spin
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I'd recommend 3 yokes to start:
1. 3" standard yoke ( http://www.cleavelandtool.com/3-Pneu.../#.XAcSj5NKhMM)
2. Longeron yoke ( http://www.cleavelandtool.com/25-Fla.../#.XAcSUJNKhMM)
3. 4" thin nose yoke ( http://www.cleavelandtool.com/4-Thin.../#.XAcSb5NKhMM)
I bought my tool kit from Isham and very happy overall. I had to send pneumatic squeezer back for O/H due to leak after 2 years - very good service and very quick turnaround. You can't go wrong with either. Cleaveland is my "go to" source for tools these days.
Even though I bought a pneumatic squeezer I also bought the "main squeeze" from Cleaveland - fantastic alternative. I frequently use it in a vise (clamp yoke in vise) to allow me to use one hand to position a part and the other to squeeze. Harder to do this with pneumatic squeezer due to the design of the trigger.
Last edited by mturnerb : 12-04-2018 at 04:55 PM.
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12-04-2018, 06:32 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Murphy, NC
Posts: 535
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I bought the Isham kit about 11 years ago with the squeezer and DRDT-2. No complaints at all. Make sure to get the adjustable part on the squeezer.
John
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12-04-2018, 09:38 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 860
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rv7boy
Cleaveland...Cleaveland...Cleaveland
...not...Cleveland.
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I asked many years ago when I was buying tools. Cleaveland was one of the ladies' maiden names.
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12-04-2018, 10:01 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Fargo, ND
Posts: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mturnerb
I'd recommend 3 yokes to start:
1. 3" standard yoke ( http://www.cleavelandtool.com/3-Pneu.../#.XAcSj5NKhMM)
2. Longeron yoke ( http://www.cleavelandtool.com/25-Fla.../#.XAcSUJNKhMM)
3. 4" thin nose yoke ( http://www.cleavelandtool.com/4-Thin.../#.XAcSb5NKhMM)
I bought my tool kit from Isham and very happy overall. I had to send pneumatic squeezer back for O/H due to leak after 2 years - very good service and very quick turnaround. You can't go wrong with either. Cleaveland is my "go to" source for tools these days.
Even though I bought a pneumatic squeezer I also bought the "main squeeze" from Cleaveland - fantastic alternative. I frequently use it in a vise (clamp yoke in vise) to allow me to use one hand to position a part and the other to squeeze. Harder to do this with pneumatic squeezer due to the design of the trigger.
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awesome. thanks for the recommendations
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