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Old 11-08-2018, 05:49 PM
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Yep this will be a slider. For some reason the tipper just doesn't do it for me. (the manual sure makes the tipper look like a lot more work too)
Slider is easy! Bing, Bang, Bomb it's done. For a pro like you, long weekend.
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Old 11-08-2018, 06:14 PM
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Slider is easy! Bing, Bang, Bomb it's done. For a pro like you, long weekend.
Now that is what I want to hear! haha unfortunately I can't get to this job until summer.
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Old 11-10-2018, 10:50 AM
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Now that is what I want to hear! haha unfortunately I can't get to this job until summer.
That is a good idea. The extra heat of the day helped me. My frame was the hard part the gluing wasn't too bad at all. I haven't done the windscreen yet, I need a little room to finish the panel...
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Old 11-11-2018, 09:09 AM
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Well I have changed gears a bit but I'm still getting things done. I decided it was time to do some things in the garage pertaining to the flaps and ailerons since winter is approaching and I can work on those in the house. But first...

My first RV grin! I had to drill some holes on the front deck so I thought why not.

20181104_131705 by Jereme Carne, on Flickr

20181104_131152 by Jereme Carne, on Flickr

I also quickly learned that these vents supplied in the kit are a joke. I'll be going with some Stein vents now. Unfortunataly they aren't cheap!

20181104_145221 by Jereme Carne, on Flickr

What are these you ask? They are aileron stiffeners but I don't see them that way... I see them as 2 hours of deburring.

20181110_154840 by Jereme Carne, on Flickr
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Old 11-11-2018, 05:08 PM
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What are these you ask? They are aileron stiffeners but I don't see them that way... I see them as 2 hours of deburring.
Uhhh.. Did those a few month ago. So much fun! But the flaps are nice part to build that do go together really quickly.
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:42 AM
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I would like to make some comments based on the front view of your fuselage.

1. You may find it very difficult to rivet the F-7107-L, F-7107-R and F-7108A ribs to the firewall with the engine mount installed. The top two rivets on each rib are OK but the remainder lower rivets are the problem getting a rivet gun into those locations. Ask me how I know.

2. Before installing the front top skin I would suggest you complete fitting all your instruments and components to your instrument panel and back panel. Having the top skin off makes it much easier to complete the wiring as you have better access.

3. Following on from item 2 work out where you want them and then make the the holes you are going to put in the firewall for the engine wiring harnesses (e.g. EGT/CHT, oil pressure and temperature, fuel pressure, magneto leads, etc). I used the Aircraft Spruce 3/4 inch kit P/N: 09-00978 (they also come in 1/2 inch and 1 inch sizes) as they are made of steel and utilise Fire sleeve. Ease of access again is the benefit.

Enjoy the building process and post some more threads showing your progress.

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Old 11-13-2018, 07:17 PM
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I would like to make some comments based on the front view of your fuselage.

1. You may find it very difficult to rivet the F-7107-L, F-7107-R and F-7108A ribs to the firewall with the engine mount installed. The top two rivets on each rib are OK but the remainder lower rivets are the problem getting a rivet gun into those locations. Ask me how I know.

2. Before installing the front top skin I would suggest you complete fitting all your instruments and components to your instrument panel and back panel. Having the top skin off makes it much easier to complete the wiring as you have better access.

3. Following on from item 2 work out where you want them and then make the the holes you are going to put in the firewall for the engine wiring harnesses (e.g. EGT/CHT, oil pressure and temperature, fuel pressure, magneto leads, etc). I used the Aircraft Spruce 3/4 inch kit P/N: 09-00978 (they also come in 1/2 inch and 1 inch sizes) as they are made of steel and utilise Fire sleeve. Ease of access again is the benefit.

Enjoy the building process and post some more threads showing your progress.

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Thanks for the comments Gordon! I am on the same page on 1-3. Top skin is slated to be one of the last things done so that I can do all the wiring in peace. I'm in the process now of gathering all of the stuff that needs to be placed on the firewall as I am going to fibrax it and attach what I can before I put the mount and engine on. The mount right now is only loosely held on so I can attach all of this stuff. I'm trying to get them ribs to a point where I can rivet them to the firewall. After all of this stuff goes on the firewall I can put the mount on for good. It's mainly there right now as I'm running out of room in my house to store it all.
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Old 12-11-2018, 01:48 PM
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Wow this has been a really interesting thread to read. I keep thinking I'd like to build a Vans RV someday (probably a 14). That said, I have zero building/fabrication skills, so it's always been fairly intimidating to me. I'm a mechanical engineer by trade and I've done my fair share of wrenching on motocross bikes (grew up racing), some basic auto work, and plenty of RC airplane building! That said, this is definitely a whole different league! Looks like a lot of fun. I own a Cherokee 140 with my dad and our hangar neighbor is building an RV-14. He showed me some basic riveting work last weekend (riveting, back riveting, nut plates, etc). I can see how you could get hooked on building.

What have been your "must have" shop tools (not aircraft specific tools that you would get in the Cleaveland RV Tool Kit, but stuff like bench grinder, drill press, band saw, etc)?
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Old 12-13-2018, 06:41 PM
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Wow this has been a really interesting thread to read. I keep thinking I'd like to build a Vans RV someday (probably a 14). That said, I have zero building/fabrication skills, so it's always been fairly intimidating to me. I'm a mechanical engineer by trade and I've done my fair share of wrenching on motocross bikes (grew up racing), some basic auto work, and plenty of RC airplane building! That said, this is definitely a whole different league! Looks like a lot of fun. I own a Cherokee 140 with my dad and our hangar neighbor is building an RV-14. He showed me some basic riveting work last weekend (riveting, back riveting, nut plates, etc). I can see how you could get hooked on building.

What have been your "must have" shop tools (not aircraft specific tools that you would get in the Cleaveland RV Tool Kit, but stuff like bench grinder, drill press, band saw, etc)?
Glad to answer! First and foremost, building seems like a daunting task when you look at the whole. Really it's learning a bit here, a bit there and before you know it you are cruising along. As far as tools go I don't see how people enjoy building without access to a drill press, band saw, and 1" belt sander. I use them tools a lot when fabricating parts, they are not necessary but dang it would suck without them in my mind. I also have access to a metal shear and brake which is mega nice but not required. A bench grinder is a must as well. If I could have a bigger compressor I sure would like it too, I have a 21 gallon and really wish I had a 60. Other than that most tools come from the aircraft suppliers, I'm a big fan of having a pneumatic squeezer. Any other q's don't hesitate to ask!
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Old 12-14-2018, 01:09 PM
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Glad to answer! First and foremost, building seems like a daunting task when you look at the whole. Really it's learning a bit here, a bit there and before you know it you are cruising along. As far as tools go I don't see how people enjoy building without access to a drill press, band saw, and 1" belt sander. I use them tools a lot when fabricating parts, they are not necessary but dang it would suck without them in my mind. I also have access to a metal shear and brake which is mega nice but not required. A bench grinder is a must as well. If I could have a bigger compressor I sure would like it too, I have a 21 gallon and really wish I had a 60. Other than that most tools come from the aircraft suppliers, I'm a big fan of having a pneumatic squeezer. Any other q's don't hesitate to ask!
Thanks for the feedback! Out of curiosity, what drill press and band saw do you own?
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