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Old 10-25-2018, 04:39 PM
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When doing wiring, the first thing I do is create the schematic with a labeling scheme.
During actual installation, I use yellow heat shrink and a fine line sharpie. Just write directly on the heat shrink and just shrink it onto each end of the wire run.
If it?s a particularly hostile spot, I sometimes shrink clear over the yellow.
The writing shrinks along with the wrap but remains easy to read.
It?s easy, fast and cheap.
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Old 10-25-2018, 08:33 PM
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Dave-

Is that powerpoint format something you could share? -Ivan Luke
Ivan,

I'm happy to share but I don't have an easy way to post my files right now. My files are also a work in progress and so not yet complete.

However, there was another RV-10 builder who attended this same AEA class who has done an excellent job of explaining the process. Check out his posts on VAF at http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...&highlight=ppt

Also Tim Spear posted a copy of Leok's ppt file on his web server for folks to download. Look at the last post on this page for a link to the ppt file: http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...pt#post1195513

If after you have read his postings you still want a copy of my working file, send me your email address via private message on this board and I will email you a copy of my file.

Using PowerPoint does take some practice to do efficiently. There are tools for grouping, aligning, rotating, etc. that work well. I've been using PowerPoint since about 1994, and so it has become an easy tool for me to use. If there are other tools (CADD, drawing programs, etc.) that your are comfortable using, they might be a better choice.

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Old 11-05-2018, 05:02 PM
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Thanks for all your input. I bought a Dymo LabelManager 160 for 20 bucks on Amazon, and 1/4? heat shrink label tubes. I was concerned that the 1/4? tubes would be too big for 20 gauge wire but it works perfectly.



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Old 11-05-2018, 05:46 PM
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Thanks for all your input. I bought a Dymo LabelManager 160 for 20 bucks on Amazon, and 1/4” heat shrink label tubes. I was concerned that the 1/4” tubes would be too big for 20 gauge wire but it works perfectly.
What heat shrink label tubes did you buy? The $20 LabelManager is not supposed to be able to print on heat shrink, but obviously that is not true.
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Old 11-05-2018, 06:18 PM
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What heat shrink label tubes did you buy? The $20 LabelManager is not supposed to be able to print on heat shrink, but obviously that is not true.
The part number is A18051. I purchased a generic three pack (5'/pack) for $22
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Old 11-05-2018, 06:43 PM
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Has anyone been able to find printable tubing in something smaller than 1/4?? Most all of the wiring I plan to install is 22 gauge.

I think I?ve found one printer for nearly $300 that has something less than 1/4? tubing available, but the tubing is something like $40 for a 3 foot length.

I?ve used laser printer labels with clear heatshrink in the past, but I really like the look of the printed heatshrink.

Thanks in advance!
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Old 11-05-2018, 06:48 PM
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Rod,

The 1/4" tubing will do 22 gauge wire. I'm amazed at how much it will shrink.

Here's how it looks... sorry about the spelling

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Old 11-05-2018, 07:51 PM
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Rod,

The 1/4" tubing will do 22 gauge wire. I'm amazed at how much it will shrink.

Here's how it looks... sorry about the spelling

Better redo that one. It's misspelled

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Old 11-05-2018, 07:56 PM
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I use the K-Sun with 1/8" (3mm tube).
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Old 11-05-2018, 08:41 PM
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Thanks!

K-sun is the brand I found that seemed quite expensive. Any advice on a reasonably priced source? Or am I going to have to find the pry bar for my wallet again? :-)

I’m just airline pilot cheap!

UPDATE in the middle of the night...

I ordered the Epson LW-PX900. It prints at 360dpi and accepts shrink tube cartridges ranging from 1/8” to 1”. I found the best price at an online place called Image Supply. I ordered 1/8, 3/16, and 3/8” black on white tubing. My thought was 22/24 gauge wire, multi-wire shielded, and RG400 in selecting the shrinktube sizes. I’ll report back with pics and a PIREP.

The total for my order was right around $375. OCD costs money! Gots to have a tidy wiring harness. Pahan would be proud... right Pahan?
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