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11-04-2018, 07:07 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Dogwood Airpark (VA42)
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Vent line modifications
I read about mud daubers and such clogging up vent lines - leading to fuel starvation and/or a collapsed tank.
I did two mods to address this:
- The last few inches of line is inserted into a 3/8? tube. The 3/8? tube provides the needed surface area to JB weld on a piece of aluminum screen. After the epoxy sets a few seconds on a stochbrite wheel to make it smooth. Done.
- I also wanted a backup in case of ice build up. I added a vacuum breaker valve. The valve is inside the airplane but as it only allows air in, any fuel burping out of the tanks still just goes out of the vents. The valve itself is very light and rated for fuel. I got it from McMaster Carr: https://www.mcmaster.com/plastic-check-valves
Part number 5492K51
The first photo is for the RV-10 or RV-14:

The next photo is the same idea but for an RV-8/8a:
Carl
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11-04-2018, 10:31 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Schaumburg, IL
Posts: 5,315
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I read a good tip a few years back. I installed a bent wire (like a paperclip) pushed into the vent fitting exiting the fuse. You use the bend to keep tension against the ID. 500 hours later, it still there. It makes the passage impossible for the daubers to get through.
I also added a check valve to vent cabin air into the vent line in case of ice over on the exterior fitting. A wise move for IFR flyers. Just be sure it has a low open pressure/vacuum rating.
Larry
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11-04-2018, 12:11 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Estes Park, CO
Posts: 3,953
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JD Air Vents
I'm using these. They have a screen built in. Gain a knot or two as well. Probably not but the look cool.
https://www.jdair.com/categories/Fuel-Vents/
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Larry Larson
Estes Park, CO
http://wirejockrv7a.blogspot.com
wirejock at yahoo dot com
Donated 12/03/2019, plus a little extra.
RV-7A #73391, N511RV reserved (2,000+ hours)
HS SB, empennage, tanks, wings, fuse, working finishing kit
Disclaimer
I cannot be, nor will I be, held responsible if you try to do the same things I do and it does not work and/or causes you loss, injury, or even death in the process.
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11-04-2018, 05:06 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Dogwood Airpark (VA42)
Posts: 2,606
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Originally Posted by wirejock
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Good option for the RV-10 or 14. Will not work on the RV-8/8A.
Carl
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11-04-2018, 07:00 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 434
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I did two mods to address this:
- The last few inches of line is inserted into a 3/8? tube. The 3/8? tube provides the needed surface area to JB weld on a piece of aluminum screen. After the epoxy sets a few seconds on a stochbrite wheel to make it smooth. Done.
- I also wanted a backup in case of ice build up. I added a vacuum breaker valve. The valve is inside the airplane but as it only allows air in, any fuel burping out of the tanks still just goes out of the vents. The valve itself is very light and rated for fuel. I got it from McMaster Carr: https://www.mcmaster.com/plastic-check-valves
Part number 5492K51
I?ve thought about doing something like this for the 10. So do I have this right, you go from the tank to inside the plane(maybe under seats) to a tee with valve back out to the wing fairing?
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Cadillac, Mi
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11-04-2018, 07:38 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Dogwood Airpark (VA42)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rvdave
I did two mods to address this:
- The last few inches of line is inserted into a 3/8? tube. The 3/8? tube provides the needed surface area to JB weld on a piece of aluminum screen. After the epoxy sets a few seconds on a stochbrite wheel to make it smooth. Done.
- I also wanted a backup in case of ice build up. I added a vacuum breaker valve. The valve is inside the airplane but as it only allows air in, any fuel burping out of the tanks still just goes out of the vents. The valve itself is very light and rated for fuel. I got it from McMaster Carr: https://www.mcmaster.com/plastic-check-valves
Part number 5492K51
I?ve thought about doing something like this for the 10. So do I have this right, you go from the tank to inside the plane(maybe under seats) to a tee with valve back out to the wing fairing?
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No. The vent line remains in the wing root. Just add a T like is shown in the photo.
Carl
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11-05-2018, 05:25 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: n. wi
Posts: 780
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i used a screen out of a kitchen faucet but they are becoming hard to find.a ''head shop'' has perfect screens for about a dime a piece.
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n. wi.
dakota hawk/jab 3300 built and flying. sold 6/18.getting serious about the 12. in the hangar now as of 10/15/19
RV-12 kit as of 9/13
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11-05-2018, 08:38 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Posts: 1,019
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Just curious. How fine a mesh/obstruction is needed to keep these pests out of the vent?
In past I've drilled small holes to criss cross at 90 degrees through the vent tube (or fitting) and inserted safety wire through them, held in place by shop peening the holes. Worked fine to this point for the pests we have around here, but am now wondering if this would be valid protection where mud doppers are a real problem.
My only experience with doppers was in a set of tanks that was brought to me to check out, I found the flop tube totally plugged by the little guys.
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Ralph
built a few RVs, rebuilt a few more, hot rodded some, & maintained/updated a bunch more
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11-05-2018, 09:07 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Dogwood Airpark (VA42)
Posts: 2,606
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I just used standard aluminum window screen material on the last three RVs. It keep the critters out.
Carl
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11-05-2018, 09:08 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Okanagan Valley BC, Canada
Posts: 483
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Originally Posted by wirejock View Post
I'm using these. They have a screen built in. Gain a knot or two as well. Probably not but the look cool.
https://www.jdair.com/categories/Fuel-Vents/
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl Froehlich
Good option for the RV-10 or 14. Will not work on the RV-8/8A.
Carl
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I've got em on my -8 with a Rocket style tubing coil in the wing root. No issues...
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Ron Townson
Okanagan Valley BC, Canada
RV-8 Completed Dec 2013
Membership renewed Sept 8, 2019
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