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Old 10-14-2018, 09:13 AM
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It is per each aircraft.

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Old 10-14-2018, 11:06 AM
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Default Is new ADSB rebate available for Experimental?

I found the following FAQ on the FAA web site describing the new rebate program. From this language, it appears that EXP will not be able to take advantage of the new rebate program. Is this interpretation correct, or am I missing something?

Why is only TSO-certified equipment eligible for this program?
Since the rebate program is aimed at this segment of the GA community, only TSO-certified Version 2 equipment is eligible. The cost of TSO-certified equipment is typically higher than similar equipment that isn't certified, making it less affordable for cost-sensitive customers.

https://www.faa.gov/nextgen/equipadsb/rebate/faq/#q2

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Old 10-14-2018, 11:31 AM
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Appear you are correct. You can still install it in your experimental aircraft, but you must buy TSO version 2 equipment to qualify for the rebate.
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Old 10-14-2018, 12:57 PM
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Appear you are correct. You can still install it in your experimental aircraft, but you must buy TSO version 2 equipment to qualify for the rebate.
I was excited for the rebate news BUT you're correct, has to be TSO'd. I was planning on going the uavionics /echo uat route which gives me ADS-B in and out but now I wonder if I should spend $1000 more to get a $500 rebate? Is there anything close?
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Old 10-14-2018, 02:22 PM
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Default ?Certified Installer??

I?m a bit confused about who is eligible to install the TSO?d equipment to obtain this latest rebate.

The rebate guidelines state the following:
?Discuss your plans with a certified installer to ensure it will work correctly. Once you schedule your appointment to install the TSO-certified avionics, you are ready to reserve your rebate.?

However, the .PDF rules do not mention a requirement for a certified installer.
As experimental owners, can we install the TSO?d equipment AND be eligible for this latest rebate?

As an aside, the closest ADS-B ?Out? TSO?d system to the uAvionix Echo (non-TSO?d) system, cost-wise, appears to be the Garmin GDL-82. A separate ADS-B ?in? solution would still need to be added to the GDL-82 to be comparable in features.
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Old 10-14-2018, 07:24 PM
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Looks like non tso?d units are not eligible, just installed my unit Friday . Does not give option for rebate for this unit
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Old 10-14-2018, 07:59 PM
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After thinking on this for a while I think I?ve figured out my answer how to get the rebate for those of us who became compliant between rebates. Change the n number and start over. Should be easy as my n numbers are just vinyl and not painted on.....
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Old 10-16-2018, 11:42 AM
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This may be good news if you're in our situation....

I emailed the FAA at ADSBRebateHelp@faa.gov, sharing the info from my earlier post (#3) in this thread:

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We had the Navworx EXP working for awhile...
Then we had the uAvionix Echo, which worked for us briefly. After difficulties, we removed it, and we do not currently have ADS-B out.

We never applied for the rebate, first time around (EXP didn't qualify, and we tried the Echo after the first rebate program ended), but we had flights with our tail number broadcasting ADS-B out when we had the Navworx and Echo units.
In my email to them, I also wrote:
The FAA records will show that we have had occasional acceptable ADS-B out reports in the past from these two units. We have not previously applied for a rebate on ADS-B installation.

Would we be eligible to apply for a rebate under the reinstated program? (We are considering either the Appareo ESG or Garmin 335.)
Just got this back:
If you have not previously received a rebate, you will qualify. We will be in touch within a week regarding how you can apply. Thanks.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:13 PM
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I upgraded my RV to a GTX 345 last year and got the rebate for that aircraft. I am now getting ready to put a GTX 345 in my Cessna 150 (along with a full Garmin stack of other stuff).

Will I be able to qualify for the $500 rebate on the Cessna or am I limited to only one rebate reguardles of the number of aircraft I own and upgrade to ADSB-OUT?
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It is per each aircraft.

Vic
The FAA website FAQ clearly states it is one rebate per aircraft owner. The form I filled out for my rebate (the last period) asked "have you ever received the......rebate?" yes = not eligible to apply.

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Old 10-16-2018, 05:19 PM
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I heard back from uavionix and they said unless it's a tso'd unit it doesn't qualify but the tso'd tail beacon isn't available yet and that will be $350 more.

Why does it seem like we (experimental owners) help to fast track the certification process but we don't get a very good reward for doing so.
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