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08-20-2018, 12:20 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: MS
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Decision time
Hello all,
Seeking a little advice. In trying to identify our "mission", I believe these items take precedence in this order:
1. Economical
2. A way to build flight time (76 hours TT on pilot)
3. Short (~3 hour, speed dependent) cross-countries occasionally / Trainer for the kids
4. Resale value
With these factors in mind, I believe I'll know the answer to the question of "which RV is right for me?" But just wanting to read some banter on pros and cons.
Thanks,
Eric
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08-20-2018, 12:31 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Richmond VA, USA
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Used RV-6 or -6A. A great value if you can find the right one.
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Originally Posted by Eric B
Hello all,
Seeking a little advice. In trying to identify our "mission", I believe these items take precedence in this order:
1. Economical
2. A way to build flight time (76 hours TT on pilot)
3. Short (~3 hour, speed dependent) cross-countries occasionally / Trainer for the kids
4. Resale value
With these factors in mind, I believe I'll know the answer to the question of "which RV is right for me?" But just wanting to read some banter on pros and cons.
Thanks,
Eric
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Based W96: New Kent International Aerodrome
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2020 Dues Paid
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08-20-2018, 12:39 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Camas, Wa
Posts: 92
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RV6, 7, 9 or even 12.
12 is much slower - but still decent cross country. and economical.
Just flew my 9 to miles city montana and back (vancouver, wa). I consistently get about 6.3 gallons per hour and fly about 165 mph ground speed.
6 and 7 if you are considering aerobatics
9 if for cross country and no aerobatics.
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N72NJ - RV9A Purchased 10/2017
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08-20-2018, 01:53 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Southwest
Posts: 1,120
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my take
if you want to fly now, cant beat a RV12.
If you plan to be in it for the long haul, and don't see any medical issues in the next few years, I would keep flying club planes, rental or even a used Cessna 150 to build time, while you build a RV7, 9 or 14.
By building while flying, you will have enough hours to be fully comfortable in the faster ships, and will stay motivated by continuing to fly and build time ( maybe even IFR rating??). I figured $150 to $200 / month for non-owner flying.
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WARNING! Information presented in this post is my opinion. All users of info have sole responsibility for determining accuracy or suitability for their use.
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RV9A- Status:
Tail 98% done
Wings 98% done
Fuselage Kit 98% done
Finishing Kit 35% canopy done for now
Electrical 5% in work
Firewall Forward 5% in work
www.pilotjohnsrv9.blogspot.com
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08-20-2018, 02:08 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Boulder, CO
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Don't build. That's going to take you hundreds if not thousands of work hours, minimum.
Avoid RV's if you need economy. Economy has three parts: initial cost, the annual fixed cost of insurance, storage, etc., and the service cost of the fuel, oul and that sort of thing. They are all important.
Get a 2-seat certified airplane. They start in the mid-teens and you can fly it from day one.
At some point when you have more flight time, reassess what your needs are then. If at that point you want to build an RV, then by all means do it.
My advice, worth every cent.
Dave
RV-3B skinning the fuselage
Cessna 180 flying
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08-20-2018, 02:15 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Savannah, GA
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When you say build time, presumably that's towards an aviation job. How much do you care about instrument time? In my book, the long wing RVs are much better for IFR than the short wings, but as somebody else pointed out, spam cans can be mighty attractive -- and IFR is one of those cases where an old C172 will be lots better than an RV.
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08-20-2018, 02:18 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Sugar Land, TX
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If you are looking for a modern aircraft that can be used as a "trainer for the kids", I would seriously consider the RV-12 or new RV-12iS. With a 120 kt cruise speed, it should be acceptable for shorter (~3 hr) cross countries, it is economical, and the S-LSA version is used by some flight schools. The E-SLA version is the same aircraft, just home built.
Best of luck with your decision.
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RV-10 First Flight April 1, 2020.  Currently in Phase 1
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08-20-2018, 02:30 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
Posts: 10,769
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Award Winning RV-6
I have just what you need:
Built by Mel & Ann Asberry, 1989-1993.
1126 hrs. TT, Empty weight 1040 lbs., Day/Night VFR.
Lycoming O-320-E3D, 9.5:1 compression, Roller rocker arms, (Aprox 172 hp).
850 SMOH, Dual impulse mags, Service bulletins complied with. Feb 2018 Annual.
Catto 3-bld w/NLE (Latest Config) & Screwless Spinner, 2 spare props, Catto 3-bld (climb), Sensenich Wood.
Hotel/Whiskey Extended Range Fuel Tanks (47 gals total fuel).
GRT Sport EX EFIS w/Safe-Fly 2020 GPS (new).
Garmin GNC 300XL com(1)/gps, Xcom com(2), Trig TT22 transponder. ADS-B out compliant.
Electronics International engine analyzer (UBG-16), fuel flow/pressure, dual fuel level.
TruTrak Vizion 380 2 axis autopilot.
Dual Brakes. Manual Flaps and Trim. Nice canopy cover that covers cabin vents.
Awards include:
“Best All Metal” S&F, “Outstanding Homebuilt” S&F. “Grand Champion” All American Sport Aviation Fly-In. “Mechanical Excellence Award” EAA 168. and More.
Serious inquires only please.
Ann & I no longer do cross countries and I don't want this airplane to "sit".
$65,000 or make me a reasonable offer.
972-784-7544
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Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
Last edited by Mel : 08-20-2018 at 02:44 PM.
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08-20-2018, 04:50 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Laguna Hills, CA
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I think a -9 would fit your mission well. 155 kts true on 7.5 gph, stall speed of 39 kts, a super docile but responsive airplane. You mention resale value, which should remain quite high on an RV. An older certified aircraft would be much cheaper to purchase inititially but could have significantly higher annual inspection and maintenance costs, and might be harder to unload when it's time to sell.
Mel's plane looks pretty good too!
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Flew to Osh in 2017, 2018 & 2019! 
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08-20-2018, 07:05 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
Posts: 12,887
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric B
H...3. Short (~3 hour, speed dependent) cross-countries occasionally / Trainer for the kids
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Thanks,
Eric
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That "Trainer for the kids" thing knocks out all the RV's in my mind.
While the -9 has great low and high speed flight characteristics, having just replaced a cracked engine mount, patched and repainted a cracked gear leg fairing, and had a bent gear leg straightened, I can't recommend it for initial training.
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RV-9 (Yes, it's a dragon tail)
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Build the plane you want, not the plane others want you to build!
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Last edited by N941WR : 08-21-2018 at 06:38 AM.
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