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08-15-2018, 09:19 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Dubai
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Michael, what is your distance from the vertical bars on the F711 to the front of the F710B angle. It should be 13 1/32inch, i am not saying mine are correct, but the front of my HS line up perfectly with the F710B.
Regards.
Arie
Last edited by Arie : 08-15-2018 at 09:42 AM.
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08-15-2018, 09:27 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hockessin,Delaware
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710B and 710C
Tough to tell because of the angle of view, but it appears to me that the 710B and C are not positioned far enough aft. Perhaps the F-710 bulkhead is bowed forward?
Also, my plans show the distance from the forward edge of the HS rear spar to the aft edge of the HS-710 and HS-714 spice angles to be 12 3/16" - so you are right on with this measurement.
Best regards,
Merrill
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08-15-2018, 09:51 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Estes Park, CO
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Angle dimension
Is the angle the correct dimension material?
It looks right but if they made it from the wrong stuff, the flange may be too narrow.
Just a thought.
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Larry Larson
Estes Park, CO
http://wirejockrv7a.blogspot.com
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Donated 12/03/2019, plus a little extra.
RV-7A #73391, N511RV reserved (2,000+ hours)
HS SB, empennage, tanks, wings, fuse, working finishing kit
Disclaimer
I cannot be, nor will I be, held responsible if you try to do the same things I do and it does not work and/or causes you loss, injury, or even death in the process.
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08-15-2018, 09:54 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Joseph, Oregon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wirejock
Is the angle the correct dimension material?
It looks right but if they made it from the wrong stuff, the flange may be too narrow.
Just a thought.
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My thoughts exactly...but I measured the F-710B angle and it's the proper 1" X 1".
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Michael Fleming
Joseph, OR
sagriver at icloud dot com
RV-7 Slider #74572
Started 11/2016
Empennage completed 11/2016 (sans fiberglass)
Ailerons and flaps completed 3/2017.
Wings completed 12/2017
Started on QB fuselage 01/2018
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08-15-2018, 10:11 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Joseph, Oregon
Posts: 561
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I just got off the phone with Van's and They are perplexed why the F-710B angle is too far aft. Everyones curiosity is up at Van's, they are pulling a -7 fuse down to take a closer look and will get back to me.
They also had me set up the stabilizer with better clamps and add the 3/16" spacers under the rear spar. This has brought the distance down to about ?" too far aft.
Although Van's doesn't know why (yet) everything is off, they said there's a couple fixes. Depending on if I can get an acceptable edge distance on both the F-710B angle and the HS-714 angles, I can split the difference and proceed to drill the stab in place. Otherwise if I can't get the edge distance they want me to drill off the deck and move the F-710B angle around to get things to line up.
Being that this is a QB fuse, I'm not keen on doing that and risking screwing up those AN4 rivets on my dime.
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Michael Fleming
Joseph, OR
sagriver at icloud dot com
RV-7 Slider #74572
Started 11/2016
Empennage completed 11/2016 (sans fiberglass)
Ailerons and flaps completed 3/2017.
Wings completed 12/2017
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08-15-2018, 12:23 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Eugene or
Posts: 39
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Horizontal stabilizer mounting
You are more than welcome to give me a call to discuss this issue if you have not figured it out yet. I'm sure we can work through it together.
Ryan A. Marshall
Synergy Air
541-844-6120
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08-15-2018, 03:43 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Joseph, Oregon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rv8builder2014
You are more than welcome to give me a call to discuss this issue if you have not figured it out yet. I'm sure we can work through it together.
Ryan A. Marshall
Synergy Air
541-844-6120
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Thanks Ryan!
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Michael Fleming
Joseph, OR
sagriver at icloud dot com
RV-7 Slider #74572
Started 11/2016
Empennage completed 11/2016 (sans fiberglass)
Ailerons and flaps completed 3/2017.
Wings completed 12/2017
Started on QB fuselage 01/2018
Donated for 2020 and so should you
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08-15-2018, 04:05 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Joseph, Oregon
Posts: 561
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Synergy Air Rocks
Ryan Marshall from Synergy Air is the man!
After Ryan suggested I give him a call, I did and he figured out what was wrong in pretty quick order.
So the forward spar of the horizontal stabilizer is biased rearward by a little less the ⅛". This of course doesn't help my problem.
But the big issue was that the F-711C vertical bars were not square to the aft deck. In fact they were leaning aft by a hefty amount. Ryan said he always takes great care when installing the bars to get them perpendicular to the deck before riveting.
Well after a little tweaking, my F-11C bars are now square and the error is down to less than 3/16". I can make that work.
Wow  what a head scratcher. Tomorrow the horizontal stabilizer goes on 
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Michael Fleming
Joseph, OR
sagriver at icloud dot com
RV-7 Slider #74572
Started 11/2016
Empennage completed 11/2016 (sans fiberglass)
Ailerons and flaps completed 3/2017.
Wings completed 12/2017
Started on QB fuselage 01/2018
Donated for 2020 and so should you
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08-16-2018, 01:42 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Dubai
Posts: 134
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Just a question, how did you tweak the F711C bars to be perpendicular to the aft deck?
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08-25-2018, 10:04 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Joseph, Oregon
Posts: 561
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arie
Just a question, how did you tweak the F711C bars to be perpendicular to the aft deck?
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Using a 24" crescent wrench with padded jaws. Slid the jaws down the F-711C vertical bars until near the deck. Using another wrench on the 24" wrench, I carefully straightened the F-711Cs.
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Michael Fleming
Joseph, OR
sagriver at icloud dot com
RV-7 Slider #74572
Started 11/2016
Empennage completed 11/2016 (sans fiberglass)
Ailerons and flaps completed 3/2017.
Wings completed 12/2017
Started on QB fuselage 01/2018
Donated for 2020 and so should you
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