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04-12-2016, 12:09 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Newport, TN
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Originally Posted by Tango Mike
Not sure I understand what the tea leaves are saying . . .
The G3X system already uses Garmin's Nav Data. As I understand it, the only reason the G400 does not is that when Garmin first offered the unit for sale, they didn't have a database to put in it, so they used Jeppesen's, which means I'm stuck with paying the higher cost if I want to keep the GPS current for legal IFR use.
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Prior to this update and the yet to be released newer lower cost Garmin Nav database (for the G3X), the G3X only supported the full blown Jepp Nav database or the Garmin VFR Nav database that did not include approach info. The new functionality and hopefully soon to be released database is a brand new offering from Garmin which includes approach info. Looks like this is coming for the G3X due to the hints being dropped.
Whether or not the GNS/GTN follow suit is another question....
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04-12-2016, 06:34 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Austin, Texas
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Originally Posted by Brantel
Prior to this update and the yet to be released newer lower cost Garmin Nav database (for the G3X), the G3X only supported the full blown Jepp Nav database or the Garmin VFR Nav database that did not include approach info. The new functionality and hopefully soon to be released database is a brand new offering from Garmin which includes approach info. Looks like this is coming for the G3X due to the hints being dropped.
Whether or not the GNS/GTN follow suit is another question....
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Thanks for this. My guess is that waiting for a reasonable-cost option for the 400 will be futile, but maybe not . . .
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04-12-2016, 08:09 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Annapolis MD
Posts: 457
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brantel
Prior to this update and the yet to be released newer lower cost Garmin Nav database (for the G3X), the G3X only supported the full blown Jepp Nav database or the Garmin VFR Nav database that did not include approach info. The new functionality and hopefully soon to be released database is a brand new offering from Garmin which includes approach info. Looks like this is coming for the G3X due to the hints being dropped.
Whether or not the GNS/GTN follow suit is another question....
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I actually kinda / sorta need this new data offering. Flying within the DC SFRA, and using the flyway between the BWI and DCA / ADW class Bravo airspace *almost* requires the use of the fixes / waypoints VPOOP and VPONX to keep you out of the FRZ and trouble with the FoD. The problem is that they are not contained in the Garmin VFR database included with the Mini and Lite bundles. The "workaround" is to use Garmin Pilot to upload a flight plan to the G3X. These fixes ARE contained in the basic Garmin Pilot navigation subscription. The G3X converts VPOOP and VPONX into user waypoints in the uploaded flight plan. I'd like the ability to program in those fixes natively...
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04-12-2016, 08:44 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Newport, TN
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Originally Posted by maus92
I actually kinda / sorta need this new data offering. Flying within the DC SFRA, and using the flyway between the BWI and DCA / ADW class Bravo airspace *almost* requires the use of the fixes / waypoints VPOOP and VPONX to keep you out of the FRZ and trouble with the FoD. The problem is that they are not contained in the Garmin VFR database included with the Mini and Lite bundles. The "workaround" is to use Garmin Pilot to upload a flight plan to the G3X. These fixes ARE contained in the basic Garmin Pilot navigation subscription. The G3X converts VPOOP and VPONX into user waypoints in the uploaded flight plan. I'd like the ability to program in those fixes natively...
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Looks like you will soon get your wish based on all the clues being left around.
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04-12-2016, 09:20 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Vero Beach, FL
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If and when this new offering happens, I guess the interesting question for some of us is going to be whether those of us who have a current G3X/G300 US Lite Database Bundle (annual subscription $149.99) will be able to switch over to the new one for the remainder of our subscription. 
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04-12-2016, 11:30 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Hopkinsville, KY
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User waypoints
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Originally Posted by maus92
I actually kinda / sorta need this new data offering. Flying within the DC SFRA, and using the flyway between the BWI and DCA / ADW class Bravo airspace *almost* requires the use of the fixes / waypoints VPOOP and VPONX to keep you out of the FRZ and trouble with the FoD. The problem is that they are not contained in the Garmin VFR database included with the Mini and Lite bundles. The "workaround" is to use Garmin Pilot to upload a flight plan to the G3X. These fixes ARE contained in the basic Garmin Pilot navigation subscription. The G3X converts VPOOP and VPONX into user waypoints in the uploaded flight plan. I'd like the ability to program in those fixes natively...
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Can't you just enter those as user waypoints in your G3X? Wouldn't that allow you to select them from within the G3X.
Patiently waiting for the new database pricing myself.
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04-12-2016, 11:59 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Annapolis MD
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Originally Posted by bhester
Can't you just enter those as user waypoints in your G3X? Wouldn't that allow you to select them from within the G3X.
Patiently waiting for the new database pricing myself.
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Yea, I can. But then again, I'm assuming that other Vxxxx waypoints around the country are also not in the VFR database. Better to be able to bring them up through the G3X system, rather than kludge my way threw it.
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07-23-2018, 05:48 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Oakland, CA
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This thread drifted far from the original poster's complaint. But I am having a similar issue: Can't get the flygarmin ap to update my SD cards for my GTN650 and non touch G3X. The updater *appears* to be working, but when I check the card files after the update, there are the appropriate folders present, but there is nothing in them.
Here's a letter I wrote to G3Xpert, but I was wondering if others are having this issue while I wait for a reply.... This is quite frustrating as it is not the first issue I have had with something that should be seamless, if not transparent. It's not my fault I use a macbook... If that's the problem.
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Dear G3Xpert:
I am having trouble updating my databases on the flygarmin ap.
I have a G3X two screen installation and a GTN650
I successfully updated the G3X card, and then I inserted another sd card, so that I can update both units at once and began the update process. It appeared to update, although rather quickly, but when I checked the card, there was no data. Here?s a picture of the second card files:
[screenshot of desktop with file viewer]
i then attempted to update the GTN card and got a similar result:
[screenshot of desktop with file viewer]
Can you please advise what I might be doing wrong? I can go ahead and use the first card to get the G3X?s up to date, but I am not sure what to do about the GTN. I tried different things like restarting the browser and I tried using the ?older method? of updating , as well as downloading the desktop downloader and reinstalling it. I also tried several different cards which I had used before. I would appreciate any help.
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Ed Neffinger
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