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06-23-2018, 06:18 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 242
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Originally Posted by az_gila
Don't leave/use it on your or your spouses lap if it's in the sun.
It will overheat and simply switch itself off - usually just when you need it... 
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I continue to have no problems with X-Naut RAM panel mounted (now on 9.7" iPad) and was the same with iPad Mini4 on the smaller X-Naut. Both with ship's power USB for primary and internal batteries for alternate.
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06-23-2018, 07:21 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Tellico Plains, TN
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Thanks for the comments. When mine went dark last week, I initially figured it overheated, but it's never done that before. Of course I found out that wasn't what happened while staring at the eternal apple.
I have it mounted flat on the panel with a ram roller mount, where previously, I had it angled with one of the ball mounts. I do think having it not pointing straight at my face is part of the visual problem, and might even contribute to the touch problem. Unfortunate, if I angle it out at the bottom, it becomes nearly impossible to get in and out of the plane without moving it, but I might just have to try it.
Rusty
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06-23-2018, 07:48 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Huntersville, NC
Posts: 138
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We now use iPads in the airliners. No paper. They work very well and have been reliable.
For the RV, I honestly prefer my cell phone with an external battery using ForeFlight. It?s small, but it takes up no space. My external batter sits in the space between the seats (RV7) and the phone sits on top of it. Obviously I just pick it up when I need it.
Maybe an iPhone 8 Plus or X would work for you?
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06-23-2018, 08:56 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Columbia, SC
Posts: 49
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Ipad in flight
For many years, I have used an ipad mounted to a ram mount ez roller on the deck beside the instrument panel in my RV-6. It gets some cooling from the air vent just below it, so no cooling issues. The one I currently use is an Ipad Pro 9.7. and the display is bright enough that I very seldom have a problem with readability. When it is turbulent enough to cause a problem with the ipad, I also have a problems with the knobs on my other avionics. It is an excellent source on flight information, ifr charts and plates, adsb traffic and weather, etc.
Properly mounted and cooled, I would rate the ipad very good to excellent.
Just my two cents worth.
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06-23-2018, 09:20 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Southeast
Posts: 663
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The IPad mini 4 works great. While running Garmin Pilot, I get around 3 hours continuous before it flags 10 percent power remaining. It needs to be kept out of direct sun light on a hot day or it could shuts down due to overheating. I recommend having another map option as a back up, either a MFD, an IPhone loaded with your flight app, etc.
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06-24-2018, 08:14 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: houston, texas
Posts: 900
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I-Pad air 2.
We use a Apple I-Pad air 2 with a screen glair plate over it. It is not as good as the G3X-touch in the panel but it is not hard to read. In the 8 I fly with it on my left knee and my old trusted knee board on my right knee. The 9.7" works best for us as it has a bigger screen and is not that hard to read or touch the place on the screen you want. This also work very well with the G3X and the GDL-39R as the units Blue tooth together and it is less work to have one screen set in the G3X and be looing at the other ADS-B streams on the I-Pad as you wish to see them along with the PFD information. The battery will last about 6-7 hours in stand alone or as most people do now just place a USB port in a place you like or install a cigarette lights port and used the adaptor you wish for anything that needs 12-14 volts.
Hope this helps, Yours, R.E.A. III # 80888
Last edited by Robert Anglin : 06-24-2018 at 08:16 AM.
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06-24-2018, 09:08 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Tellico Plains, TN
Posts: 561
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RV8JD
Note that the small areas to touch/tap to get a result is not a function of the iPad! It's a function of the App being used (ForeFlight, Garmin Pilot, etc.) and the App developers who cram so much information on a screen. They need to be given constructive feedback on the issue and provide larger touch sensitive buttons and symbols on the screen. [/IMG]
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Right you are of course. I've sent a number of emails to ForeFlight, but never felt like I got more than the standard "thanks for the suggestion, we'll pass it along to the developers" reply. I just sent an email to FlyQ asking them for the option to increase the button size, so we'll see how they react. Hopefully it's something they've been getting requests for, and my email will help convince them, but that may be wishful thinking.
The mini size is part of the problem I think. Full size tablets would have larger buttons, and the phone screens are so small that the developers are forced to make button size changes. The mini is sort of in the middle where you get the smallest possible buttons.
I'll be remounting the mini 4 on RAM ball mounts, which will make it more directly viewable, though harder to avoid when getting in and out of the plane. I'm also going to try a stylus to see if that helps. I may also look at the Garmin apps, since I've never tried that.
Thanks,
Rusty
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06-24-2018, 09:50 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Sunman, IN
Posts: 2,189
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Stylus
The apple "pencil" works with the new iPads, if you want a stylus type device.
I use an iPad for flying at work and it is far, far better than the previous surface tablet. I have zero issues reading it in sunlight and it works as advertised.
Using an iPad 10.5 pro...
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06-24-2018, 05:55 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Asheville, NC
Posts: 2,104
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I turned on my iPad and Stratus this morning before pulling the plane out in the sun for a preflight inspection. The darn thing shut down on me due to temperature after ten minutes! Silly me. I got in the plane, pulled my Koger Sunshade forward, started up, and opened the canopy a bit to let the breeze blow on it. I was good to go in just a couple minutes. In flight, I have a blast of cabin air blowing on the back of the iPad.
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06-25-2018, 11:59 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Richmond VA, USA
Posts: 456
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bevan
IPAD mini 4 with FltPlanGo has been excellent in the cockpit with bubble canopy RV7A. I have it mounted using a RAM Mount on the left side so it faces my eyes pretty much straight on. I don?t have any trouble viewing it in direct sunlight or with sun glasses on.
Bevan
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I've got a Mini 3 set up in the same way, with an anti-glare film on the screen. It's not EFIS bright, but when it's facing me straight on its very doable, even in direct sun and with sunglasses.
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