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06-08-2018, 08:51 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Joseph, Oregon
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Originally Posted by Walt
An "overhaul" done in "Joe Blows" hanger is not really an "overhaul" is my point. Someone that does an engine "overhaul" that does not use parts that have been approved/inspected/checked/replaced IAW the OH manual has not done an overhaul.
If were trying to figure out how to clean the pistons, I doubt they or the cylinders have been checked to see if they meet the dimensions/limits in the manual. If you're going to OH an engine you can't just pick and choose what you want to do, you got to do it all otherwise its just a repair and not an "overhaul".
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I respect your experience and knowledge but those are a lot of assumptions my friend.
Following the overhaul manual and reusing where approved and replacing when indicated is an overhaul. To say other is disingenuous.
Should the OP replace the cylinder assembles just because...maybe but the ones in hand, if within overhaul limits may be more proven than a brand new cylinder assembly.
That being said, I'm buying a new engine for my build. And if I ever get to the point of needing an overhaul, This Joe Blow might just do it himself 
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Joseph, OR
sagriver at icloud dot com
RV-7 Slider #74572
Started 11/2016
Empennage completed 11/2016 (sans fiberglass)
Ailerons and flaps completed 3/2017.
Wings completed 12/2017
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06-08-2018, 08:51 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
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Why not replace the cylinders, valves, connecting rods, and pistons while you are at it?
Call Rhonda at http://www.bpaengines.com/ for a quote. I think you will be surprised at how reasonable they are.
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06-08-2018, 08:53 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by N941WR
Why not replace the cylinders, valves, connecting rods, and pistons while you are at it?
Call Rhonda at http://www.bpaengines.com/ for a quote. I think you will be surprised at how reasonable they are.
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Man, some of you guys must be made of money 
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Michael Fleming
Joseph, OR
sagriver at icloud dot com
RV-7 Slider #74572
Started 11/2016
Empennage completed 11/2016 (sans fiberglass)
Ailerons and flaps completed 3/2017.
Wings completed 12/2017
Started on QB fuselage 01/2018
Donated for 2020 and so should you
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06-09-2018, 06:13 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
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Originally Posted by mfleming
Man, some of you guys must be made of money 
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I wish. However, when you compare the cost of "new" to the cost of "refurbished", they aren't that far apart.
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Bill R.
RV-9 (Yes, it's a dragon tail)
O-360 w/ dual P-mags
Build the plane you want, not the plane others want you to build!
SC86 - Easley, SC
www.repucci.com/bill/baf.html
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06-09-2018, 08:09 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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If you are overhauling because of a severely spalled cam, your pistons are not useable and already ruined because you will find steel from the cam and tappets imbedded in the piston skirts....
Good Luck,
Mahlon
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06-09-2018, 09:40 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Lewes, DE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mahlon_r
If you are overhauling because of a severely spalled cam, your pistons are not useable and already ruined because you will find steel from the cam and tappets imbedded in the piston skirts....
Good Luck,
Mahlon
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Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
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06-09-2018, 10:56 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Oakland CA
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You can always count on Mahlon!
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06-10-2018, 01:54 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: England
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Thinking about eventual sale price, if you were to use complete new cylinder assemblies, when you come to sell the aircraft (whenever that is), the price you might get will likely be significantly more than the difference in cost between overhauled and new cylinders. I would install new cylinders every time, as said previously the cost difference is just not that great. Pete
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06-10-2018, 11:30 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by penguin
Thinking about eventual sale price, if you were to use complete new cylinder assemblies, when you come to sell the aircraft (whenever that is), the price you might get will likely be significantly more than the difference in cost between overhauled and new cylinders. I would install new cylinders every time, as said previously the cost difference is just not that great. Pete
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Interestingly, even though the Lycoming factory sells both rebuilt and overhauled engines they put new cylinder assemblies on both.
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Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
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06-11-2018, 09:50 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Powder Springs, Ga
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Overhaul
Look up the definition of "overhaul" by the FAA and you will be surprised!
Not what you would expect.
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Powder Springs, Ga
RV6A "Kurt's Toy" - Flying
RV12 - Flying - Sold
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