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Old 04-30-2018, 10:59 PM
BobTurner BobTurner is offline
 
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In the case of ADS-B, for just an In installation the owner really get's nothing out of it other than compliance, and they are being forced to do it on the gov't timeline, not their own. Hence it's subject to the

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I think you meant ?out?. ?In? is optional.
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Old 05-01-2018, 05:20 AM
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You can discount your offer whatever you'd like BUT, as a buyer of several really nice RVs and with people on this forum posting for weeks or even months wanting to buy, the seller may simply close the hangar door and go home. Don't let a really nice one get away from you for a couple of thousand bucks. In aircraft ownership, it's a rounding error. Besides, in all probability, the asking price already recognizes the fact that the airplane doesn't' have ADS-B.

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Old 05-01-2018, 12:41 PM
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Not sure what I'm missing, but why not go with the Echo UAT for 2020 compliance? Price range is $999 to $1499 depending on WAAS antenna
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Old 05-01-2018, 02:27 PM
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I helped a guy get an NGT-9000 installed recently and he loves it to death. It's a pretty nice box, a bit more baud rate compatible than the GTX345, and he finds the screen actually very useful for obtaining weather information and such too. I know if I end up moving up to a transponder replacement, the NGT-9000 is going to be at the top of my list. It's not much more expensive than the GTX345 with built-in GPS, really, but feature wise it's nicer. In fact, since it uses wifi instead of bluetooth for the link to the ipad apps, it frees you up to be able to use SiriusXM for weather via bluetooth simultaneously with ADS-B in for traffic.
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Old 05-18-2018, 07:34 AM
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You can discount your offer whatever you'd like BUT, as a buyer of several really nice RVs and with people on this forum posting for weeks or even months wanting to buy, the seller may simply close the hangar door and go home. Don't let a really nice one get away from you for a couple of thousand bucks. In aircraft ownership, it's a rounding error. Besides, in all probability, the asking price already recognizes the fact that the airplane doesn't' have ADS-B.
SO TRUE:

We bought a very clean $39k airframe and added E.I. engine monitor with all the bells/whistles, PMA7000B, SL-30, GTN650, GTX330-ES, AERA 660 on copilot side in panel mount, GDL-393D(hardwired), Autopilot, and new style 406 MHz GPS based ELT. Many other small things like LED lighting, better air vents, new metal panel, custom placards, etc.

When we were selling, the potential buyer said its still a $39k plane and that's what he is willing to offer. He claimed it doesn't matter what you add to an a older airframe and engine. Its still an older airframe and engine.
I simply said nothing and closed the hangar door. He was continuously asking "Hey!-where are you going" as I walked away and got into my car.

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Old 05-18-2018, 04:26 PM
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My most common install is the Stratus ES if there is a WAAS navigator installed or the ESG if there is not. He price in my shop, including installation, is $2,800 and $3,000 respectively. The 2i for ADS-B in is $600 extra.

The GDL82 is another simple option, which I charge $2,500 for, including installation.

I personally prefer the 1090ES option, but some prefer the UAT either for cost or for the anonymous mode.
As Jesse noted, he charges $2500 for the GDL-82 installed. This is a GREAT option and all that's legally required for the 2020 mandate if you fly below 18,000 feet. It works with any existing mode C transponder (not mode S, 328 or 330) You can always add IN with any portable device (i.e. Stratus, GDL-39 etc). You can get fancy and spend a fortune if you like but to satisfy the mandate the GDL-82 at $2500 installed by Jesse will do the trick. I have one and love it.

This is a VERY affordable option and will keep you flying into 2020 and beyond.

You could discount the plane $2500 and then comply for the upcoming mandate.
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