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Old 04-30-2018, 10:56 PM
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I have a rivet that that would prefer to have the fuel on the outside of the tank rather that the inside. I've begged it to stop and it won't. So I tried the Lock-Tite trick with no success. I went on to try forcing some proseal around the existing rivet and still no success.

At this point, before I take the tank off to cut a hold in the backside, I'd like to try a blind rivet nestled in a bed of proseal.

So here's my question: what rivet seems to the rivet of choice for such an application? As should be expected, it's a #40 dimpled hole.

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Old 04-30-2018, 11:28 PM
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Call Vans, they keep a sealed end pop rivet in stock.

I did this, and it worked for my leak.

Good luck with yours......
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Old 05-01-2018, 09:21 AM
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If you come to Nacogdoches (KOCH) I have plenty of those sealed rivets and tank sealant. I fixed a leaking rivet on my -8 without having to remove the tank
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Old 05-01-2018, 10:19 AM
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If you come to Nacogdoches (KOCH) I have plenty of those sealed rivets and tank sealant. I fixed a leaking rivet on my -8 without having to remove the tank
What happens to the inside piece of rivet that remains after you drill-out and break off the head? Do you still remove the tank and then retrieve that?
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Old 05-01-2018, 10:24 AM
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Left it in the tank. Most likely it stayed embedded in the tank sealant when the bit pushed through. If not, It would have to get through two sets of screens and a fuel filter before it gets to the engine. No chance of that small piece of a -3 rivet would stop up a fuel line.
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Old 05-01-2018, 10:33 AM
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What happens to the inside piece of rivet that remains after you drill-out and break off the head? Do you still remove the tank and then retrieve that?

These are sealed end rivets, the broken off piece stays inside the closed end of the rivet. Here are a couple images my friend Mr. Google found....





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Old 05-01-2018, 11:11 AM
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These are sealed end rivets, the broken off piece stays inside the closed end of the rivet.
I think the question is what happens to the shop head of the drilled out AN426AD-3 rivet. The manufactured head snaps off, you push out the shop head, put in the sealed blind rivet, and then the shop head pushed out earlier goes ... ?
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Old 05-01-2018, 11:19 AM
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I think the question is what happens to the shop head of the drilled out AN426AD-3 rivet. The manufactured head snaps off, you push out the shop head, put in the sealed blind rivet, and then the shop head pushed out earlier goes ... ?
Brad, upon re-reading the question I have to agree with you--------my bad.

I did not remove the shop head, and did not have any issue because of it.
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Old 05-01-2018, 11:22 AM
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I think the question is what happens to the shop head of the drilled out AN426AD-3 rivet. The manufactured head snaps off, you push out the shop head, put in the sealed blind rivet, and then the shop head pushed out earlier goes ... ?
Most likely if you are careful the end of the orginal rivet will still be stuck in the proseal used during tank construction. Even if the end drops in the tank, the pickup strainer will keep it there.

I?ve done this fix on three tanks - simple and it works. I do use a vacuum for the rivet drill out, drilling the hole to #30 and the minor countersink to accept the sealed end blind rivet. Have the fuel level in the tank below the rivet to be replaced. Put a little proseal in the hole after prep, then on the rivet itself. Once do no one will know it is there unless you point it out.

Start to finish is 15 minutes. Let the proseal set up before exposing it to fuel.

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Old 05-01-2018, 03:22 PM
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Quick Build wing tanks or are they standard kit built?
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