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Old 04-03-2018, 07:58 AM
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My RV-6 came with a Tempest 48103 filter on it, that i've been replacing with like filters ever since. 48103's come without a nipple installed, so i'm guessing the nipple was installed in my engine (O-320 E2D) by a previous owner or the E2D came with a nipple installed? Would the Napa filters fit on the same nipple?

As for Safety Wiring, I have always safety wired the filter with just a hair of slack in the wire, and i've never found it tightened up when I go to change the oil... So it's not moving...
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Old 04-03-2018, 10:22 AM
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Not RV-related, but germane to this discussion. If anybody else out there is running a small Continental like our C85 or a C90 with the TAF-L oil filter adapter installed, the NAPA 1515 filter threads directly onto the TAF-L as it has an integral threaded nipple.

I haven't yet run the NAPA filters but will almost certainly switch to them for our C85-powered aircraft after seeing them do well on a neighbor's C90-powered airplane.
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Old 04-03-2018, 12:03 PM
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So... Is there any difference between Napa Gold 1515 and Napa Wix Gold 1515?

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I bought one of the HP1002 filters to try. I venture to guess it has about 1/4 the pleated media area of the 1515. Very small in comparison and unless physical room is an issue, there's no reason to use a small filter. The larger the filter, the lower the pressure drop across the filter.
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Old 04-03-2018, 12:08 PM
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My RV-6 came with a Tempest 48103 filter on it, that i've been replacing with like filters ever since. 48103's come without a nipple installed, so i'm guessing the nipple was installed in my engine (O-320 E2D) by a previous owner or the E2D came with a nipple installed? Would the Napa filters fit on the same nipple?

As for Safety Wiring, I have always safety wired the filter with just a hair of slack in the wire, and i've never found it tightened up when I go to change the oil... So it's not moving...
The Tempest 48103 filter is the same that my engine uses and it is 13/16"-16 thread. The research that I have done has the NAPA 1515 filter with 3/4"-16 thread so it would not work on either my engine or yours.
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Old 04-03-2018, 12:16 PM
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So... Is there any difference between Napa Gold 1515 and Napa Wix Gold 1515?

Ed Holyoke
Wix manufactures the Napa Gold filters, so not that I'm aware of.

FWIW I ought to mention that I have have some of my certified customers using the Challenger cleanable oil filters. They are made by K&P engineering and you can get the non-certified equivalent for about $100. They come apart very easily and can be inspected in seconds, without having to wash them down. Takes a few minutes to clean in a parts washer. Built in magnet. Very nicely made.
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Old 04-03-2018, 12:39 PM
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Got a link for that? They are $295 on aircraftspruce.

>FWIW I ought to mention that I have have some of my certified customers >using the Challenger cleanable oil filters. They are made by K&P engineering >and you can get the non-certified equivalent for about $100.
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Old 04-03-2018, 01:36 PM
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I just got off the phone with the Challenger Filter lady and she claims there is no non-certified (experimental) oil filter product.
Any other sources for that $100 Challenger oil filter?

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Old 04-03-2018, 02:02 PM
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I just got off the phone with the Challenger Filter lady and she claims there is no non-certified (experimental) oil filter product.
Any other sources for that $100 Challenger oil filter?

George
I'd hazard a guess that since Challenger doesn't actually make the filters, it's K&P Engineering that has an equivalent. I'd look for an equivalent to the Napa 1515, for example. In fact, I went to their site to check it out but their "filter finder" was marked as not functional.
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Old 04-03-2018, 02:05 PM
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Safety wiring oil filters is one of aviation's greatest mysteries to me.

One other, is safety wiring NPT thread plugs.

In either case, if they're appropriately torqued they will never spin off.

There's no provisions for safety wire on the Rotax 912 oil filter.

So why bother?
Robinson Helicopters have cut out safety wiring filters as "not necessary" on their piston helicopters.
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Old 04-03-2018, 02:40 PM
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I'd hazard a guess that since Challenger doesn't actually make the filters, it's K&P Engineering that has an equivalent. I'd look for an equivalent to the Napa 1515, for example. In fact, I went to their site to check it out but their "filter finder" was marked as not functional.
The STCed Challenger filter has K&P Engineering laser etched on it.

Napa Gold 1515 - 2001 Ford Explorer. So that is the vehicle you could ask for if you call them.

You want the housing with the nut machined on the end, so that would be the only difference between a stock automotive unit.
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