BFR in an RV that's not really transition training?

Davy8or · #1 03-29-2018, 11:52 PM

I have used the search function for a while. I know it's no longer called a BFR by the FAA, but it's what I call it. What I really want to know is, can I get a BFR (or "Flight Review" for the pedants) done in an RV-6/A, 7/A, or preferably a 9/A even though I'm not really seeking tradition training?

I do not have an RV, nor have I committed to buying one, but I do have a BFR coming up in July I think and I'd love to do it in an RV to get the experience of an RV. I'm only interested in the try-gear versions as I do not have a tailwheel endorsement and zero tailwheel time. Also, the /A is what I might buy next.

I just want to pay a CFI and rent an RV in Northern California for the purpose of getting a BFR, is that possible? At this point I really can't legitimately call it transition training.

az_gila · #2 03-30-2018, 12:03 AM

In my case the insurance company was more concerned with total hours flown as PIC of a -6A rather than anything formally labeled transition training.

Taltruda · #3 03-30-2018, 12:13 AM

I don't think you can legally rent an rv for flight training.. but if you find someone that lets you use it for gas only, then it's ok.

AusFlyingBear · #4 03-30-2018, 02:26 AM

Not sure what the FAA says but in Australia the BFR (now AFR) has to be in the type of aircraft you have flown the majority of the time in, in your last ten flights.

Auburntsts · #5 03-30-2018, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by AusFlyingBear

Not sure what the FAA says but in Australia the BFR (now AFR) has to be in the type of aircraft you have flown the majority of the time in, in your last ten flights.

In the US it is simpler ? the flight review has to be conducted in an aircraft for which the pilot is rated. No currency stipulation at all.

Ed_Wischmeyer · #6 03-30-2018, 05:29 AM

You can?t rent an RV, and gas only isn?t legal either. If you find a CFI with an RV, I think you can pay for the instructor if they give you the airplane free. But this could get the FAA real interested if they hear about it.

DaleB · #7 03-30-2018, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Davy8or

I do not have an RV, nor have I committed to buying one, but I do have a BFR coming up in July I think and I'd love to do it in an RV to get the experience of an RV.

Quit agonizing over it, buy the bloody thing and get your flight review and transition training at the same time. You know you want it, so just do it!

BruceEicher · #8 03-30-2018, 07:45 AM

I have done my BFR with factory trainer Mike Seager. He?s busy and may not want to just do a BFR ?just for fun? meaning his time is devoted to transition training for owners. Legally you are rated to fly an RV, (insured is another matter) but amateur builts can?t be rented except for the means of transitioning I believe.
Might be better just to start pounding rivets quickly for your next BFR.

BobTurner · #9 03-30-2018, 11:08 AM

The answer is a flat-out ?no? - unless you have access to an RV and an instructor who are truely free, no gas, no strings attached.
I have the waiver from the FAA to give transition training for hire in my RV. But the paperwork says I may not sign off a flight review under this waiver, even if during the course of the transition training we satisfy the flight review requirements! So I think the FAA is serious about this.

YellowJacket RV9 · #10 03-30-2018, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BobTurner

The answer is a flat-out ?no? - unless you have access to an RV and an instructor who are truely free, no gas, no strings attached.
I have the waiver from the FAA to give transition training for hire in my RV. But the paperwork says I may not sign off a flight review under this waiver, even if during the course of the transition training we satisfy the flight review requirements! So I think the FAA is serious about this.

I had no issues using my transition training as a flight review. Sounds like others have done the same. Maybe you got some screwy limitations? The FAA isn't known for their consistency, except when it comes to lack of common sense.

As for the OP, if you can find a willing transition training instructor (without the limitation above) I don't see why you couldn't do it. There is no requirement about having to own or be building an RV to get transition training.

Chris