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Old 03-19-2018, 07:46 AM
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Does it matter which screen receives the update first? PFD-MFD (Left to right) or MFD-PFD (right to left)??
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Old 03-19-2018, 07:56 AM
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Does it matter which screen receives the update first? PFD-MFD (Left to right) or MFD-PFD (right to left)??
Hello Anthony,

No, it doesn't matter, but personally I like to insert the software update card in the MFD and power up the MFD and update that display first, they power-up the PFD and update it.

When the PFD resets after loading the software to internal memory, I hold down the menu key to bring it up in configuration mode so I can watch all of the various devices being updated on the system information page. Only when all of the software updating by the PFD is complete do I restart the system in normal mode.

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Old 03-19-2018, 08:54 AM
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Hello Anthony,

No, it doesn't matter, but personally I like to insert the software update card in the MFD and power up the MFD and update that display first, they power-up the PFD and update it.

When the PFD resets after loading the software to internal memory, I hold down the menu key to bring it up in configuration mode so I can watch all of the various devices being updated on the system information page. Only when all of the software updating by the PFD is complete do I restart the system in normal mode.

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I second Steve's method! I like to see the LRU's update so I know when they are finished. Seems to help eliminate surprises later...
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Old 03-19-2018, 09:00 AM
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i have only had luck by updating one at a time, and leaving the adjacent screen powered off completely

otherwise I get high network error rates on at least one module when updating, I have no idea why this is, and my can bus passes all the tests
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Old 03-19-2018, 10:33 AM
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Hello Anthony,

No, it doesn't matter, but personally I like to insert the software update card in the MFD and power up the MFD and update that display first, they power-up the PFD and update it.

When the PFD resets after loading the software to internal memory, I hold down the menu key to bring it up in configuration mode so I can watch all of the various devices being updated on the system information page. Only when all of the software updating by the PFD is complete do I restart the system in normal mode.

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Steve,
This is interesting.
I've always used 2 SD cards and updated the 2 screens at the same time.
Any issue doing it this way?
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Old 03-19-2018, 01:25 PM
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Steve,
This is interesting.
I've always used 2 SD cards and updated the 2 screens at the same time.
Any issue doing it this way?
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Hello Johan,

No problem using 2 software update cards if that is what you want to do, but since it only takes about 15 secs to do a software update, I sure wouldn't take the time to create/maintain two software update cards.

It is more common for people to use two database update cards to cut down the time for that loading activity, and perhaps that is what you meant.

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I just installed v 5.90 in an aircraft that previously had autopilot trouble with v 5.70. Everything seems okay. However, it took well over an hour just for the G5 update. The servo updates were about 15 minutes. The automatic update went in the sequence of GDU 465 (less than 20 seconds) then upon reboot the system updated the autopilot servos. Then came the G5 update. An hour later the servo update executed again. Glad I had a maintainer on the airplane. So be wary of the update if depending on ship's battery alone.

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Old 03-21-2018, 09:55 PM
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I just installed v 5.90 in an aircraft that previously had autopilot trouble with v 5.70. Everything seems okay. However, it took well over an hour just for the G5 update. The servo updates were about 15 minutes. The automatic update went in the sequence of GDU 465 (less than 20 seconds) then upon reboot the system updated the autopilot servos. Then came the G5 update. An hour later the servo update executed again. Glad I had a maintainer on the airplane. So be wary of the update if depending on ship's battery alone.

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Interesting. I just upgraded from 5.6 to 5.9 and the whole process took about 5 minutes with the G5 and servos taking the longest. Could be 5.7 had something to do with your long update.
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Old 03-22-2018, 08:05 AM
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Hello Jim and Anthony,

Of course the software update I was referring to taking 15 seconds is the transfer of the new G3X Touch software for all LRUs into each GDU 4XX display from the SD card.

The updating of each device on the can bus (e.g. servos and G5) which has new software for a particular update is an additional update time, but not generally long.

If you are in configuration mode on the PFD and seeing a device taking a long time to update (e.g. G5), remove power from everything in the system but PFD1 and the device you are trying to load. This will remove all other communication from the CAN bus and streamline the software load to the device which is not completing the software update.

It is ok to power up a few devices with PFD1 (e.g. all servos) when they are on the same power circuit, but the main thing is to remove as much as possible to reduce non-essential communications on the CAN bus during a software update. Powering off some devices on the CAN bus is generally not necessary, but can be a good way to resolve software update issues when observed.

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Old 03-22-2018, 08:59 AM
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We like the way Steve has mentioned. We take everything off line, then boot up the GDU. Load the new software and then bring the other items in the Garmin system on line. It take a minuet or less each time we up-date. We were running 5.7 with no problems and just switched to 5.9 a couple of flights ago. It so far checks out just fine.

I asked Garmin and they tell me that they are planning to bring the gear to up-date GTXer's to Sun and Fun, so we will get that done as well if needed.
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