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Old 02-23-2018, 11:31 AM
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I'm planning on an Aerosport panel with two 10 inch Skyview HDX units.

With the large units and the Aerosport panel restraints it seems like the only location available for the three small Dynon panels is above the main units.

This would be for the knob, autopilot and comm panels.



Does anyone have a similar panel in currently?

Are there any access/reach issues getting at the three small panels that high on the panel?

Any other comments?
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Old 02-23-2018, 11:49 AM
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VAFers,

I'm planning on an Aerosport panel with two 10 inch Skyview HDX units.

With the large units and the Aerosport panel restraints it seems like the only location available for the three small Dynon panels is above the main units.

This would be for the knob, autopilot and comm panels.



Does anyone have a similar panel in currently?

Are there any access/reach issues getting at the three small panels that high on the panel?

Any other comments?
I did something similar. I have AFS screens and slightly different accessories. It looks like it should work.

Give Geoff a call. He can mock up in Solidworks to see if things fit, then cut the insert too if you want him to do that. I believe that Dynon has all the Solidworks components online.
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Old 02-23-2018, 12:17 PM
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I did something similar. I have AFS screens and slightly different accessories. It looks like it should work.

Give Geoff a call. He can mock up in Solidworks to see if things fit, then cut the insert too if you want him to do that. I believe that Dynon has all the Solidworks components online.
Thanks, but I'm not really worried about the fit - there's lots of room for the not very deep Skyview parts - I'm more concerned with the operational aspects and the ease of use.

Will it be a pain in the *** to get at the small buttons up that high on the panel?
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Old 02-23-2018, 02:22 PM
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I don't think reach will be an issue. I have short arms, and can easily reach my Trio autopilot high in the stack. In some ways it's easier, as you can glance out the windscreen and turn the knobs at the same time.
I would check, though, that they're low enough for the view to not be blocked by the glare shield. This depends somewhat on your seated height. Give some thought to lighting for night flying (under the glare shield lip?).
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Old 02-23-2018, 02:56 PM
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I would check, though, that they're low enough for the view to not be blocked by the glare shield. This depends somewhat on your seated height. Give some thought to lighting for night flying (under the glare shield lip?).
Thanks I'll check the blocking soon when I visit a few local RV-10s looking at interiors...

As far as lighting goes, all of the boxes in the picture, except for the ELT monitor, are internally back lit and controlled by the Skyview HDX with a built-in automatic light level control.

The switches below all going to have back lit icons/labels (see my previous thread on Carling switches) so at this time I'm thinking the left side of the panel won't need any strip lighting under the glare shield.
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Old 02-23-2018, 05:37 PM
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Gil if you fly IFR you're gonna love that screen setup. I gives you so much flexibility in screen layout to give you the information you need right in front of you in an easy to read format. Also the right seater can see the right hand screen well enough to fly from that side as well. If it were mine tho I would put the the upper units in the following order - knob panel, autopilot panel, radio then annunciators. I would also shift all those units to the left with the autopilot panel directly above the map shown on the right hand panel. For IFR you will use the knob and autopilot panel all the time and want them front and center. The reach is just fine at that location and very convenient.

With that two screen layout I would set it up with the plate on the left half of the left screen then the PFD and no engine instruments, then on the right screen use it for a full map with engine instruments on the bottom or half and half with the engine instruments if you want to see them in large scale. You're going to want to use at least 1/2 of a screen full height for your plates or you will haft to scroll to get the information you need for an approach.
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I am also considering a similar layout, but does it put the GPS navigator too far to the right for the pilot to use?
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That layout should work fine, but if you have the Aerosport armrest I would recommend putting the knob panel on the front of the armrest then put the AP panel where the knobs are now in your drawing. With the knobs on the armrest you can adjust those 3 things with your arm on the armrest without looking at them. This is especially helpful in turbulence. The knobs panel is set up in a way that the knobs are easy to feel which is which without looking.
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Old 02-23-2018, 09:33 PM
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Thanks Jesse and Jrskygod. Good points and I hadn't even thought of putting the knob panel on the front of the armrest.

So a newer version with the knob box relocated, the other small panels moved and five indicators added to keep the GTN-625 TSO happy since it is offset too far right from the center-line.

Not shown is the proposed avionics stack with a Garmin G5 for back-up - GTN-525 TSO GPS navigator and a GTR-200 comm #2 radio. Even though the G-5 is angled a bit to the pilot it should be OK for a right side pilot to use.

The audio panel will be located on the Aerosport lower console.



Again, thanks for the comments. I'm not IFR rated at the moment, but want to be when the -10 is ready.
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Old 02-23-2018, 10:52 PM
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Gil good idea on the annunciators. You will be able to easily work the GTN but you will not be able to readily see the annunciation on the radio because it will be too far from your scan. You do need to add two momentary contact switches to your annunciator panel for the susp / one and nav/ gps functions. Don't forget the toga button. On the sticks a good place for that if able. That works really well when you get it set up.
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