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02-09-2018, 08:20 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2016
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a nice bright white urethane floor does wonders for lighting..
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02-09-2018, 08:21 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2016
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Originally Posted by RogerG
We are an Electrical Distributor (No name mentioned here since not an advertiser), and sell most major brands of High Bay lighting.
Our most popular High Bay fixture is the Philips Day-Brite FBX in the 24,000 lumen package, 5K color temp. Other lumen packages available up to 45,000.
http://www.lightingproducts.philips....-high-bay.html
One unique feature of the Philips FBX fixture is that an optional factory installed feature called Spacewise can be ordered which will allow the grouping of fixtures from the ground using a remote. This feature allows groups of fixtures to turn on/off or dim depending on occupancy without additional building wiring.
Some other brands to consider would be Eaton Cooper Lighting, and RAB Lighting, all good quality lighting with confidence you would be able to get replacement parts if needed down the road. There is many off shore fixtures that at first look seem to be a good deal, but if problems come up down the road it could be a problem.
Most Electrical distributors will gladly do a lighting layout for you free of charge. This will help you predict the FC, and placement of fixtures.
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02-09-2018, 08:40 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RogerG
We are an Electrical Distributor (No name mentioned here since not an advertiser), and sell most major brands of High Bay lighting.
Our most popular High Bay fixture is the Philips Day-Brite FBX in the 24,000 lumen package, 5K color temp. Other lumen packages available up to 45,000.
http://www.lightingproducts.philips....-high-bay.html
One unique feature of the Philips FBX fixture is that an optional factory installed feature called Spacewise can be ordered which will allow the grouping of fixtures from the ground using a remote. This feature allows groups of fixtures to turn on/off or dim depending on occupancy without additional building wiring.
Some other brands to consider would be Eaton Cooper Lighting, and RAB Lighting, all good quality lighting with confidence you would be able to get replacement parts if needed down the road. There is many off shore fixtures that at first look seem to be a good deal, but if problems come up down the road it could be a problem.
Most Electrical distributors will gladly do a lighting layout for you free of charge. This will help you predict the FC, and placement of fixtures.
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Good advice for a Highbay in a warehouse or high ceiling but not for the OP's 10' mounting hieght. The 12000 lumen product would work well.
The wireless control options are readily available in most major brands now. They are neat but I don't feel the added cost is worth it for a Hangar but it does add a lot of flexibility and the cost keeps going down. 0-10vdc dimming is resident for free if you want to pull the control wires, but I never have had a need to dim in a hangar or shop. The energy use is so low across the system zoning doesn't really pay back.
Eaton, Rab, Philips, all good brands, but now you did it and I am going to tell my buddy Greg Parnely on you for not recommending Lithonia!
To your point, the major brands may cost a bit more, but you get what you pay for. That said, it is getting harder and harder to differentiate as LED technology continues to improve dramatically across the board and the pricing is a race to the bottom. Traditionally Manufacturers, Reps, and Distributors are going to have to figure out how to add value before they go the way of the dinosaur as lighting suppliers out of stock or flow. My two cents.
Edit - Neal was typing as I was and just reinforced my point.....
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02-09-2018, 10:27 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Sedona Arizona
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I installed 24 of the 4' LED shop lights from Costco. The brand is FEIT. I went with these because the price is great and I had experience with them in previous hangar. My hangar is 60 X 40 feet and I am very happy with the results. I joined them up length wise to make 8' fixtures out of them and this worked great. I just joined them up with 1/8th X 3/8" flat bar from the hardware store. They hang easily with small chain. They are hung about 16' from the floor and evenly spaced in two rows. These fixtures can be joined into longer fixtures if desired off of the same electrical input on one end. I think as many as 4 or 5 of them can be fed from one end.
Pricing at Costco for these lights is less than $28.00 per 4' fixture so I was able to supply good lighting to a 60 X 40 hangar for a very reasonable price, under $700 for the fixtures. I could not find anything on line that came close to this.
I hired an electrician to run the conduit and wires but hung the fixtures ahead of time myself off of a rented scissor lift.
I think the color number was 4000 but like I said above, I avoided all the analysis of light intensity and color because I already know I liked them in my previous hangar.
Now if I can get the floor coated in a reflective durable epoxy, that is the next big step for me.
Anyway, I wanted to let people know that this lighting worked out very well for me and I believe I saved considerable cash over the alternatives available.
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02-09-2018, 12:04 PM
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Randy - if your happy that is all that matters. The FEIT fixtures are on the very low end of the quality and performance scale. They don't meet any modern standards for LED. They don't meet any IES standards. "Average life of 50,000 hours" isnt how LED fixtures are tested, again showing they don't meet standards, along with their other dubious claims. You just have to take their word for it as they are not tested by any independent lab.
Fortunately, most hangars have such low usage you may never see any problems.
Like anything else, you get what you pay for. Again, if you like them and they do the job for you, enough said..... I couldn't, and wouldn't , recommend these products as a lighting professional however, but the choice is ultimately up to the user.
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02-09-2018, 03:32 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Seattle, WA
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Keep in mind the source of advice you receive as well 
Last edited by BMC_Dave : 02-09-2018 at 03:34 PM.
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02-09-2018, 08:53 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Sonoma County
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Twenty years ago I built a shop, 45X35. I lit the shop with 18 4' shop lights from the big box store at a cost of $9 each. The 4' tubes cost 99 cents each. The shop has been well light.
Not one light has failed to date. Did I need better? I guess not. But I am not a lighting expert and maybe that's why I installed such a cheap lighting system.
Costco just had their LED shop lights on sale for $20.....
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02-10-2018, 04:47 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: n. wi
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the last time the lighting subject came around [last 3 months] i decided i was going to replace my 20 yr old 4' fluor. for new stuff. my shop is 16' x 22' and the 16 bulbs really lit it up. after shopping around and looking at cost, lumens, expected life i realized that if you throw in a few led bulb failures new lighting technology is to save fossil fuels, not save us money.
a 40 watt fluor. can be had for $3 for 3000 lumens and lasts 20000 to 30000 hrs. and are very reliable. add up the cost of new fixtures and bulbs and a few new item failures and i won't be around to see any savings.
i did manage to cut my elec. cost in half on my old fixtures though. spent half a day rewiring my fixtures to 2 switches instead of 1. now 95% of the time in the shop can be spent with only one switch on.
i would certainly say go for it in a new installation but the numbers did not add up to replace my old setup.
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