VansAirForceForums  
Home > VansAirForceForums

- POSTING RULES
- Donate yearly (please).
- Advertise in here!

- Today's Posts | Insert Pics

  #21  
Old 03-26-2017, 01:37 PM
Slice Slice is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Tacoma, WA
Posts: 64
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtZim View Post

Thanks again for the tips and comments!

Bruce

Hey Bruce,

Just curious as to why the G5s are on the left vs the right? As a former single seat guy your free hand should be the left one without the A/P on. For that reason it seems to make more sense to have the GTN and GNC on the left. I'm working on upgrading the panel on my -4 and wondering if there's something I haven't thought of before I pull the trigger.

Thanks.
__________________
RV-4
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 03-27-2017, 01:46 PM
PilotjohnS PilotjohnS is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Southwest
Posts: 1,119
Default Thread hi jack

So i am also putting a G3x system together. Here are my plans tell me what are better options:
G3x touch dual screen
GMA245R remote audio panel
GTN650 certified GPS/VOR/ILS
GTX45R remote ADBS transponder with weather
GMC307 autopilot control panel
G5 backup flight instruments
Wiskey compass
Archer vor antenna

Does this give me what i want:
ADSB
GPS approaches to mins
Dual com (One with second monitoring)
Autopilot
Intercomm

If i wanted to add a second com how would i do that?
What am I missing?
__________________
John S

WARNING! Information presented in this post is my opinion. All users of info have sole responsibility for determining accuracy or suitability for their use.

Dues paid 2020, worth every penny

RV9A- Status:
Tail 98% done
Wings 98% done
Fuselage Kit 98% done
Finishing Kit 35% canopy done for now
Electrical 5% in work
Firewall Forward 5% in work
www.pilotjohnsrv9.blogspot.com
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 03-27-2017, 02:18 PM
Slice Slice is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Tacoma, WA
Posts: 64
Default

GTR 20 would give you a remote second com radio. I am opting for GTN 625(on sale currently with G3X purchase for $5500) and a GNC 255A for redundancy purposes. If all you have is the 650 and it goes T.U. you're out of IFR approach options.
__________________
RV-4
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 03-27-2017, 02:20 PM
Slice Slice is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Tacoma, WA
Posts: 64
Default

Sounds like you have all the items on your wish list to do what you hope to.
__________________
RV-4
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 03-27-2017, 02:44 PM
PilotjohnS PilotjohnS is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Southwest
Posts: 1,119
Default Thanks

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slice View Post
GTR 20 would give you a remote second com radio. I am opting for GTN 625(on sale currently with G3X purchase for $5500) and a GNC 255A for redundancy purposes. If all you have is the 650 and it goes T.U. you're out of IFR approach options.
Thanks. I will make this change.
__________________
John S

WARNING! Information presented in this post is my opinion. All users of info have sole responsibility for determining accuracy or suitability for their use.

Dues paid 2020, worth every penny

RV9A- Status:
Tail 98% done
Wings 98% done
Fuselage Kit 98% done
Finishing Kit 35% canopy done for now
Electrical 5% in work
Firewall Forward 5% in work
www.pilotjohnsrv9.blogspot.com
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 03-29-2017, 09:46 AM
avionicsr's Avatar
avionicsr avionicsr is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Port Orange, FL
Posts: 54
Default

I don't see the CAN connection to the GSU25
__________________
Pahan Ranasingha
Spruce Creek Airport 7FL6
Port Orange, FL

RV-7A N705RV (Sold)
Lancair IV-P N530P
RV-14A (Under Construction)
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 01-26-2018, 07:52 AM
Nived17's Avatar
Nived17 Nived17 is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Williamsport, PA
Posts: 49
Default Photo cells vs. Dimmer Pot

SgtZim (Bruce),

I am currently installing a G3X with all the bells and whistles into my RV-4. Due to limited panel space in my -4, the only mounted avioncs in the panel will be the GDU460, GTN650, and GMC307. I have planned to use the photo cells in the GTN650 as well as the GDU460 for night-time dimming. It now occurs to me that the lighting on the GMC307 buttons may not follow the brightness settings from the photo cells on the display. Do you have any info from your install that could help here? I would prefer not to have to hook up a pot just for the GMC307 button light brightness if I could avoid it. Thanks! Great looking panel by the way!



Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtZim View Post
I'm plugging along, making detailed lists and notes on each LRU and every connecting pin that I will use and where each one connects to. Following Bob Knuckolls' advice to "make your mistakes on paper first".

I had a question for the G3Xpert about how to connect and configure a GTX 45R transponder to the GDU. The wording on how to configure their respective serial ports was worded differently.

Steve responded:

The current G3X Installation Manual is Rev. AA and it includes all the wiring and configuration guidance you need for the GTX 45R on page 24-21. (see below)

The serial port connection from the GSU25 to the transponder is also used to control the transponder.

Let us know if you have further questions.

Thanks,

Steve

(I try to keep current on revisions, but I think this time I was just reading the wrong copy.)


Thanks to Steve and Jonathan at Garmin! They are awesome, and respond quickly to clear things up!

So, I endorse reading, taking notes, checking revisions, reading again, and asking questions.

Now for the Q and request for A section: I'm still unclear about how an external lighting bus is supposed to work. The Garmin manual says there are several commercially available dimmers but does not comment about desired or required parameters. The lighting bus is supposed to "follow" a supplied voltage to control the lights via a lighting bus HI and a LO pin on the connectors. Components that can accept 14 or 28 volt systems have wiring options to use one or the other.

I experimented today with my GMC 307 - wired power to it and tried out the lighting bus inputs - connected to my Van's supplied dimmer unit I will use for cabin area lights. The dimmer puts out between 1.12 and about 10.99 volts as you turn the pot. I wired the variable volt wire from the dimmer to the GMC 307 "lighting bus HI" pin, and grounded the "lighting bus LO" pin per directions. I did not see any response or control of the lights as I turned the pot up or down. Could be an issue using the PWM dimmer, or maybe it has to be configured in the GDU program?

I'm not really worried about it - but I'd still kind of like to get all the lights on the GMA audio panel to work - it has to have external lighting control to get power to light the text labeling. Other than this, all the other boxes seem to do a good job auto dimming from their own photocells.

Thanks again for the tips and comments!

Bruce
__________________
- Devin Albrecht
Williamsport, PA
570-406-4868

Happy owner to an RV-4!!!
2020 dues paid! (4/2020)
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 01-30-2018, 10:16 PM
FitzRX7 FitzRX7 is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: FL
Posts: 100
Default

Photocells work great on everything, 307 included. Ok, so maybe the G5 could track a little closer to the G3X system out of the box, I?m guessing I could maybe get them closer with some tweaking. But yeah Devin, no need for any lighting controls IMHO, in 300ish hours behind it I?m happy just to let the photocells drive.

Fitz
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 02-06-2018, 03:06 PM
SgtZim SgtZim is offline
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Crittenden, ky
Posts: 194
Default photocells

Thanks for your comment Fitz. I was hoping the photocells would be all that's needed. I'm not confident I could have successfully connected all the Garmin boxes to a common lighting bus without buying the GAD27 (don't have the space anyway) Most of the main boxes are "tweakable" for lighting in their software if some are too dim or bright. I've also added a dimmable led strip under the glareshield and led area lights on the sides of front and back cockpit.
__________________
RV-8 slow build
IO360-M1B Sensenich fixed pitch
Garmin G3X
GTN 625
GNC 255
GTR 20
GTX 45R
G5 x 2

Facebook "log" https://www.facebook.com/BZsRVproject/
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 02-27-2018, 10:22 PM
FitzRX7 FitzRX7 is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: FL
Posts: 100
Default

So, maybe I?m just a simpleton, or a guy with a -4 that doesn?t have room or weight for extra things, but why do folks install heated pitot on our planes?

I?m just curious, after a couple hundred hours in my plane I was pretty confident operating it sans airspeed in nearly any conditions, and now especially with a really nice ground speed readout and easily accessible surface wind speed data on the G3X. Makes a non-pitot approach even less of a pulse-raiser. Is it just peace of mind for some folks?

-Fitz
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:27 AM.


The VAFForums come to you courtesy Delta Romeo, LLC. By viewing and participating in them you agree to build your plane using standardized methods and practices and to fly it safely and in accordance with the laws governing the country you are located in.