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Old 01-22-2018, 07:59 PM
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Thanks OP for bringing this up. Your thread is a very timely one after yesterday. I had some serious thoughts if this whole pilot thing was going to be for me. I didn't know that there were many others out there that experienced it on early flights.

I have traveled many, many miles by airliner and some in very bad turbulence. Never a hint of airsickness. Ever. Then yesterday happened.

I have a friend who has a PPL and he knows I am about to start training, so he thought I would have fun if I rode along with him on an afternoon joyride in a 172.

He wanted to practice on some steep turns and slow flight then some short and soft field landings at different airports. I was good until we got to the training area and started turns. Aye carumba! This is NOT good. That old feeling from decades earlier on the Tilt-A-Whirl came back suddenly.

I never hurled, but I fought it all the way back. All afternoon. It was a little bumpy, but not too bad at all considering the size of the plane. The worst was tight turns and then hitting turbulence and having the plane unexpectantly move out from under you and jostle you around.

I never even thought about over the counter type medicines like Dramamine would be not legal for use. I guess I will trudge on as this seems to be a problem others have successfully dealt with.
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Old 01-22-2018, 08:20 PM
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My Dad was a B26 pilot in WWII. He said he had a problem with air sickness during training. In fact he had one last chance and if he got sick again he would be washed out. I asked what happened. He said he went out that night and got way drunk and told himself washing out didn't matter. Said he never got air sick again. I doubt the drinking did anything but probably the mental attitude did.
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Old 01-22-2018, 08:37 PM
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Like most of the guys here, I had a fair amount of difficulty overcoming airsickness at the beginning. With time, you will become accustomed to all of the unusual motion and the queasiness will diminish.

I found ginger to be a big help. No, not her; the root. Ginger ale, candied ginger even a ginger beer after I was done flying for the day. All of it helped until, many months later, I was able to tolerate flying on the leeward side of the Rocky Mountains during the summer. Thought I'd never get there!
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Old 01-22-2018, 09:42 PM
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I never expected such a response from you guys.

I dont know if this is a thing, but i've always wondered, if that guy had not said to me on the ground before my 1st lesson "dont throw up", would I have even been sick? Not that it would be his fault, as I'm obviously susceptible to it.

Perhaps, as I am so passionate about it, the thought that I am "failing" by being sick it makes it that much worse. Its only my passion and, I suppose, my stubbornness, that has got me to this point. My boss and my partner both know that I'm a stubborn SOB, sometimes in a good way, sometimes not.

I said up in an earlier post i feel ashamed. Maybe that is too strong of a word, but with this male psyche that we are blessed/cursed with, its not cool/manly/tough/whatever to be sick or weak, therefore, one tries to hide it, not acknowledge it etc, and in turn, it probably never gets addressed.

So, all that being said, thanks for the comments and suggestions. I'll go out and keep cracking.

Anyway, here is a couple of pics of my toy
https://imgur.com/a/xIDEs
https://imgur.com/a/Y1beR

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Old 01-22-2018, 09:45 PM
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Very often motion sickness is due to unrecognized fear at a low level, such as unfamiliarity or as pointed out, lack of control. It can be handled, and all pilots get nerves from time to time. Not sure who to recommend other than a very calm, reassuring been there done that CFI.

Best to ya!

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Old 01-22-2018, 09:58 PM
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Another possibility is that if you have a passive attitude towards flying instead of an I’m in control attitude, that could contribute. (I’ve had students who had to learn to be in control.)

But even with 3,000+ hours, I can be mighty tired and bordering on queasy after a long hot day in the bumps.

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Old 01-22-2018, 10:06 PM
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Here are your pics. Nice toy!
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Thanks Mate, I couldnt seem to get the hotlinking working.

I've got a complete oregon aero interior to go in as well. Its a fairly basic panel compared to some of the works of art I've seen on the good ship VAF, but its plenty for me. The lack of an ordinary ASI bothers me a little. I feel that a quick glance down to see the needle position and then back up and outside will be easier to interpret on short final, but time will tell.
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Old 01-22-2018, 10:08 PM
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Even Bob Hoover had to deal with overcoming motion sickness, as he described in the book " Forever Flying". Try a few non training flights in cool smooth air, before or at sunrise. Then build your tolerance from there.
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Old 01-22-2018, 10:19 PM
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as was posted earlier by an instructor pilot... "I used a popular method that helped the few of them who got airsick to overcome it. First, I made it clear that they weren't gong to solo until they could show me they could puke and fly the airplane at the same time. In other words, unless we were in the traffic pattern, I would not take control of the aircraft while they fumbled for a sick sack, etc. So, they had to:
1. Make sure, before takeoff that a sick sack was available and could be opened with one hand. When they felt they were going to vomit --
2. Disconnect their oxygen mask.
3. Trim the aircraft and hold the stick with their knees to keep wings level.
4. Throw up.
5. Tie up the sick sack and stow it carefully.
6. Re-connect their oxygen mask and continue with the mission."


He's right on in my opinion. I especially like the part about flying the airplane no matter what. If you don't give yourself a way out (ie giving it to your CFI) you will soon have this issue under control. Then go on to loving your decision to buy your plane.
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Old 01-23-2018, 01:13 AM
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Don't want to be a buzzkill here, but according to the AOPA Medications Database, Scopolamine & Transdermal Scopolamine are not allowed by the FAA.

I think you have to be a member to peruse the AOPA database, but there may be other DBs out there.

https://www.aopa.org/members/databas...l/druglist.cfm
I edited my post - I think the military allows this, but never checked civilian rules.
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