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01-12-2018, 08:12 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Indianapolis, IN (KUMP)
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Reviving an old thread ...
How did those of you who put the switch in the side of the throttle (as in the pic on the previous page) route wiring?
Considering placing the TO/GA switch in the throttle, and looking into ways to safely route the wires (DPST switch).
Thanks
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01-12-2018, 08:48 AM
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Join Date: May 2014
Location: KBVY Massachusetts
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Originally Posted by DakotaHawk
Thanks for all of the replies - it's good to hear/see what others have done.
I made my first flight yesterday, and found that I really don't like the PTT on the trigger of my Infinity grip. It's just not "intuitive"! I'd rather have it on the top of the stick. But the top of my stick has a coolie hat for trim, an autopilot disconnect button, and a flap switch.
Well, I'll have to give this some thought...
Time to go fly some more! 
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Hi Hawk,
Right now I have the PTT on the trigger finger button on my Ray Allen grip. I inadvertently hit that switch all the time. I hate it.
I'm in the planning stages of installing an Infinity grip. I'm reserving the trigger finger for a gun camera  - a cam that constantly runs but only records when the trigger is down. Right now the PTT will either be the pinky button or the #4 button (left side of the right hand grip). The latter is where I remember the T-37 PTT being.
If neither of those work they autopilot disco will be the pinky finger and the PTT will be the #1 switch (where you have your AP disco).
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01-12-2018, 08:54 AM
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Join Date: May 2014
Location: KBVY Massachusetts
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I am giving serious consideration to putting the PTT on the throttle, but there are pros and cons.
The main con is that while I occasionally touch the throttle, I'm almost always on the stick. So if I'm flying XC, and I have a sectional in my left hand, and then get a radio call, I have to put the map down and then hit the PTT.
Whereas if the PTT is on the stick, my hand is almost always there too. I would just have to move a finger.
The drawback to having the PTT on the stick is that I'm right handed and so copying down ATC handoffs is a bit of a juggle too. Although I'm not pressing the PTT when I'm listening to the data.
In either case I could flip the AP on.
So I can see benefits to both.
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01-12-2018, 08:56 AM
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Join Date: May 2014
Location: KBVY Massachusetts
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Originally Posted by Dayton Murdock
Hi All
I have a bag of those Red button switch?s if you send me your contact information I will mail you a switch for you deluxe throttle quadrant, there is an aluminum ring I make to adapt to the ?? I.D. of the throttle handle to the switch that will be included. 
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Hello Dayton,
If you still have some available, I'd appreciate the button and adapter ring. I've sent my contact info via PM.
Thanks
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01-12-2018, 09:13 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: va.
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I have my PTT on top of the stick, the same place as my other airplanes and it works fine there. I can?t ever remembering accidentally hitting it. I have one of Dayton?s throttle levers with engine start on it. Very easy to do, get a round switch and machine the handle to take it. I also have a starter arming switch on the panel so the start switch will not activate the starter selnoid unless arming switch is closed.
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01-12-2018, 09:40 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dayton, NV
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saville
I am giving serious consideration to putting the PTT on the throttle, but there are pros and cons.
The main con is that while I occasionally touch the throttle, I'm almost always on the stick. So if I'm flying XC, and I have a sectional in my left hand, and then get a radio call, I have to put the map down and then hit the PTT.
Whereas if the PTT is on the stick, my hand is almost always there too. I would just have to move a finger.
The drawback to having the PTT on the stick is that I'm right handed and so copying down ATC handoffs is a bit of a juggle too. Although I'm not pressing the PTT when I'm listening to the data.
In either case I could flip the AP on.
So I can see benefits to both.
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Just a single datapoint - our -3 has the PTT both on the stick trigger and on the throttle. I like the feel of both of them, but nine time out of ten, I use the stick trigger, probably just becasue that?s what I am used to. It takes a conscious ?hey, I think I?ll use the throttle PTT this time? to use the other one.
Like I said - what you get used to.....
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01-12-2018, 09:52 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Mojave
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One more data point: I have PTT on the trigger, have never hit it by accident, and find it very valuable while flying in the terminal area or formation.
In addition, I have a PTT on the panel, and that's what I use enroute. When going cross country I'm generally on autopilot and would rather not be messing with buttons on the stick or throttle. The big robust button on the panel is easy to find in turbulence and is my main "go to" for coms.
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01-12-2018, 11:41 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Dallas, TX
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I have 2 radios and fly lots of formation, but I think my setup works great. I have an Infinity style grip with Radio 1 PTT on the trigger and Radio 2 PTT on the thumb button. No need to switch Comm 1&2 to transmit, just hit the correct button. I always use the Trigger for ATC/CTAF and Comm 2 for formation or ATIS/AWOS.
I would keep radios on the stick and smoke or flaps on the throttle. If I had 2 radios, I might put Comm2 on the throttle and comm1 on the stick.
On my stick: top right — flip flop comm1 Freq. Coolie hat - trim. Top left (button) fires pyrotechnic Smoke. Thumb transmits Comm2. Trigger transmits Comm1. Pinkie button is TOGA.
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01-12-2018, 12:52 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Okeana, Ohio
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Go to page two on this thread:
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...=152597&page=2
I posted a pic of my quadrant with TOGA button in throttle handle. It could be used as a PTT as well.
The change I have in mind is a ring guard around the button. With the throttle forward my left knee can bump the button.
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01-12-2018, 01:04 PM
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VAF Moderator / Line Boy
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dayton, NV
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TShort
Reviving an old thread ...
How did those of you who put the switch in the side of the throttle (as in the pic on the previous page) route wiring?
Considering placing the TO/GA switch in the throttle, and looking into ways to safely route the wires (DPST switch).
Thanks
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It?s be nice if someone actually answered your question, wouldn?t it?
I used thin wires, and ran them down the outside face of the throttle arm, taping them in place with thin tape. Then I covered the arm and wires with a large heat shrink sleeve. Obviously, you have to have the arm off the quadrant to do this, and you?ll want to place the heat shrink strategically so that it doesn?t interfere with the pivot point or the quad surface.
Paul
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RV-8 - N188PD - "Valkyrie"
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RV-3B - N13PL - "Tsamsiyu"
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