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Old 10-08-2017, 04:15 PM
Bugsiegel Bugsiegel is offline
 
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Default Any clubs build and fly a Vans kit?

Interested to know if there are any clubs that have either built or are flying a vans kit?
Seems that most flyers of these planes are also owners from what I gather in here.
I'm a member of a club which currently flies two 172's.
I'd like to introduce the idea of the club building or buying a TEN but I think the idea/presentation would go best with an example.
Would also like to know how the insurance company of a club would feel about a kit plane in the club inventory.
Then of course, someone in the club would have to take lead and be the primary builder to keep with the 51% rule.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 10-08-2017, 04:27 PM
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Default 51 percent rule

Can be multiple builders

Issue is insurance. Start there to find someone who would insure your club and what qualifications would be

A smaller group of four or less might be more manageable
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Old 10-08-2017, 04:29 PM
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Then of course, someone in the club would have to take lead and be the primary builder to keep with the 51% rule.

Thanks in advance.
I don't think there is such a thing as a primary builder, officially. Just that 51% of the labor be done by unpaid workers, for their enjoyment or education.

Yes, talk with your insurance company. The usual problem clubs have is: (1) insure all members in the -10 (means high premiums if there are low-time members) or (2) exclude low time members, which can lead to internal problems. Add that to the issue that most insurers charge clubs a higher premium anyway.
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Old 10-08-2017, 04:45 PM
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A few of the guys at work were looking at buying something for them to fly on their days off. Among the various things they explored was a 10 that would be purchased flying instead of building. I don't know if this would be true for all companies but the guy doing the legwork gave up on the 10 idea after contacting a couple insurance folks to get quotes for about 5 guys, all with ATPs and multiple turbojet type ratings. The rates and requirements (nobody had 10 or any other RV time) were prohibitive. This was a few years ago now. Perhaps things have changed.
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