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09-21-2017, 12:21 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2014
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Prop strike engines
I have been searching for an o360 for my rv7 and have found many which have had a prop strike. There is a o360 a1a WITH 346 SMOH for 12950 on Barnstormers but it has had a prop strike, flange dials good but I have a feeling that don't mean a lot. I'm thinking I should stay away from these engines but any professional opinions would be appreciated.
Last edited by jibby212 : 09-21-2017 at 02:30 PM.
Reason: price correction
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09-21-2017, 12:58 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
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Originally Posted by jibby212
I have been searching for an o360 for my rv7 and have found many which have had a prop strike. There is a o360 a1a WITH 346 SMOH for 1295 on Barnstormers but it has had a prop strike, flange dials good but I have a feeling that don't mean a lot. I'm thinking I should stay away from these engines but any professional opinions would be appreciated.
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Lycoming says ANY prop strike, no matter how minor, requires a tear down and complete inspection. One of the most common fail points is the crankshaft/camshaft gear bolt.
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09-21-2017, 01:30 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Richmond Hill, GA (KLHW)
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I assume you left off a zero on that number (1295). The engine might be worth half that with the prop strike, IMO.
I am in the process of a prop strike inspection (slow boat) on an O-235. I tried selling it as is with the strike noted in the log book and amazingly had a few people ask to buy the engine but without the log book entry. I declined.
See SB 533B for everything required. The dial-indicator check for a bend flange, as Mel said, is still required but only part of the overall inspection. Lots of parts have to sent off for NDI.
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09-21-2017, 01:30 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Bolivar, MO
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I bought one this summer that was a prop strike 13xx since major. I thought it worth the risk. It said the crank dialed .0015". I found it to be accurate after it got here. I planned to rebuild the engine anyway so the only risk for me was the crank itself, I thought. So after tearing it down, I sent off everything in the cases for inspection/repair. It all came back after necessary work with papers for just over $3k. I'm happy.
Ditto what Mel said. One area on the crank that takes abuse, I found out, is where the cam drive gear mounts to the front of the crank. Some cranks can be repaired there. This one didn't need it.
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09-21-2017, 01:43 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Boston Area
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Originally Posted by Raymo
I am in the process of a prop strike inspection (slow boat) on an O-235. I tried selling it as is with the strike noted in the log book and amazingly had a few people ask to buy the engine but without the log book entry. I declined.
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Why? (Both why not sell, and why would they want it without the log book)
Tim
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09-21-2017, 01:50 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Joseph, Oregon
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I had a sudden stoppage back in the day with an 0-470-K.
Back then the sentiment was check the crank flange and if good...carry on.
My flange checked out good. Against the advice of all my aviation friends, I tore down the engine anyway. I can't say the damage was directly related to the sudden stoppage but I found a cracked crankshaft and two cracked rods.
It can get expensive 
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09-21-2017, 01:51 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Battleground
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Originally Posted by tspear
Why? (Both why not sell, and why would they want it without the log book)
Tim
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You must be honest, as is Raymo.
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09-21-2017, 02:46 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Boston Area
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Originally Posted by JonJay
You must be honest, as is Raymo.
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I get the honest, but I am just not understanding the motive, more on the buyer side than the seller side.
Tim
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09-21-2017, 02:46 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tspear
Why? (Both why not sell, and why would they want it without the log book)
Tim
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They want it without the entry mentioning the prop strike. Then they can list it for sale without a prop strike, because there is no record of a strike in the logs. A fraudulent practice that could get someone killed.
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09-21-2017, 02:47 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Boston Area
Posts: 135
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle Boatright
They want it without the entry mentioning the prop strike. Then they can list it for sale without a prop strike, because there is no record of a strike in the logs. A fraudulent practice that could get someone killed.
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Oh ****. I did not think of that. It never even occurred to me.
Tim
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