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09-18-2017, 11:44 PM
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Use of Flaps on Landing
Funny that I had this thought, and it seems perfect that this is the other side of Bob's earlier post on Flaps on Take off...
I was doing a few T&G's on Friday morning before heading up to Reno. It occurred to me I hadn't done any in a while, but I was itching to fly, even if it was just a few times around the patch.
When I did my training last year with Mike Seager, he trained me on the following...
Flaps @ zero for take off, up to reflex after about 200-300 feet.
On landing: Flaps from Reflex to Zero as you approach the pattern (or as you entire an approach), then flaps to 1/2, then flaps to full on short final.
So, I generally always land with full flaps. 70kts on approach and over the fence, about 65kts over the numbers.
However, doing touch and goes, it takes a while for the flaps to come back up. So, it got me thinking.... what about int heaven of a go around?
What are other doing? Sounds like a lot of people landing with no flaps? Mostly I'm landing on pretty long runways, so that's certainly not an issue.
Thoughts? and Speeds for what you do use?
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09-19-2017, 12:40 AM
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Same as you; full flaps, 70-75 kias on final (light-heavy).
For touch and goes, or go-arounds, I find the biggest issue isn't getting the flaps up a notch or two, but getting the plane back in trim. But they are both manageable. Just be prepared for the forward stick pressure needed with a full flap go-around.
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09-19-2017, 09:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BobTurner
Same as you; full flaps, 70-75 kias on final (light-heavy).
For touch and goes, or go-arounds, I find the biggest issue isn't getting the flaps up a notch or two, but getting the plane back in trim. But they are both manageable. Just be prepared for the forward stick pressure needed with a full flap go-around.
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Maybe I need to practice that.... the other day I was on our big runway, and there's almost enough time for the flaps to come up before taking back off again...
Still seems like a lot of people are landing no flaps as the norm?
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RV-10 N265WD
"Miss Whiskey Delta"
BPE IO-540, FULL EFII
KMYF, San Diego, Ca.
KEOS, Neosho, MO
Crew Chief
Grove Aero Super Legacy Reno Racer,
twin turbo, IO-540,
full EFII management system!
Race Coordinator STOL Drag coming to Reno, 2019
"so I got that going for me... which is nice."
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09-19-2017, 10:44 AM
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I flew with Van himself in the 10 and watched so I could learn. He pushed the stick to the right to lower the left aileron and then matched it with flap for takeoff. I have done that ever since. Seems to work great.
I always land with full flaps in the 10, 70-75 on final, and about 65-70 over the numbers.
Vic
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