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09-08-2017, 04:41 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Peoria, AZ
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Mike Seager approach to landings in RVs with C/S
Diess anyone know the approach that Mike Seagar uses to land RVs with C/S props?
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Thomas Velvick
Goodyear, AZ (KGYR)
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09-08-2017, 05:26 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Prescott Valley/Chandler AZ
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MAP and RPM
I did transition training in "old blue" RV6A C/S with Mike 7 years ago. Basically, on the decent to the pattern he taught MAP and on base and final switched to RPM.
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John Morgensen
RV-9A N946PM 600+ hours since 2013
Nevada/Arizona
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09-08-2017, 05:47 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Wilsonville/Aurora KUAO Oregon
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Mike has a pattern diagram he hands out. I'm fixed pitch so I did not keep the CS handout. Here's a thread showing the fixed pitch diagram, Mike or someone else will have the CS version....
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...attern+diagram
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Bruce, Katie, Hana and RV-8 HulaGirl
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09-08-2017, 05:57 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rvator51
Diess anyone know the approach that Mike Seagar uses to land RVs with C/S props?
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What airframe?
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Mike Starkey
VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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09-08-2017, 08:44 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: LA, California
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Flew with him in June
I flew with Mike in June in "7RV". It's O-320 and Hartzell. He taught: 23 squared for cruise, 12" MAP for descent, 16" on downwind. Fullest tank, check brakes, feet on floor - toes on rudder. Abeam the touchdown point, pull throttle, keep nose level, as it slows through 100 MPH - flaps half. 1 1/2 turns on the trim, boost pump on, prop and mixture forward, add throttle to 1800RPM, ignore MAP. About this time you've lost 200' and are 45 degrees off the TD point, turn base, trim for 85 MPH, angle the base leg toward the runway a little to account for wind. Somewhere on base, full flaps, turn final, hold 85. Pull power somewhere around the fence line, don't plan on adding power again. Don't change pitch until time to round out inches above the runway. If you flare high - pitch down a little as if recovering from stall and re-flare. Once you've got it rounded out, ease back to slowly assume 3 point attitude. When it touches down, steer for a couple of beats then slide feet up and gently begin steering with brakes.
This technique works like gangbusters. Two days after my last flight with Mike, I flew my 6 with perfect confidence.
Ed Holyoke
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09-08-2017, 09:52 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Peoria, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike S
What airframe?
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Its a RV-6a
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Thomas Velvick
Goodyear, AZ (KGYR)
2020 Donation sent.
N53KT RV-6a finished 2018, Flying
N7053L RV-4 Wife's RV
N56KT RV-4 Finishing
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09-08-2017, 10:03 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Peoria, AZ
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Thanks everyone for your replies. I have 50 hrs on my RV-6a with C/S prop now and trying to come up with a more standadized approach.
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Thomas Velvick
Goodyear, AZ (KGYR)
2020 Donation sent.
N53KT RV-6a finished 2018, Flying
N7053L RV-4 Wife's RV
N56KT RV-4 Finishing
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09-08-2017, 10:39 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Meridian ID, Aspen CO, Okemos MI
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How about for a 9a?
Since this is in the general forum thread, what about a 9A fixed?
I am getting scary close to being finished with my 9A. I am finishing up my license in a 172 and know the 9 will be way different than the 172. I plan on transition training before I fly myself - both for insurance reasons and Im not an idiot!
Does anyone have a diagram they would be willing to send to me or post for a 9A, fixed Catto prop? I might as well start comparing while I am finishing my license.
Thanks
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Williamston MI
O-320 D2A
Awaiting DAR Inspection
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09-09-2017, 12:37 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: oregon
Posts: 94
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Anyone have the RV-10 version they can share?
Thanks
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09-09-2017, 08:29 AM
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Senior Curmudgeon
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
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Congtatulations
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Originally Posted by rockwoodrv9
I am getting scary close to being finished with my 9A.
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Good job Rocky
Mike Seager usually has a pretty full schedule, better book early.
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Mike Starkey
VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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