RV-6A noseover video...

[RVbySDI]

Originally Posted by ty1295

. . .Alan was quick to tell me it didn't matter where the 3rd wheel was, the stick should be back anytime the plane was on the ground. . .That advise although I knew from reading about RV's struck me as it doesn't matter what plane your in.

If there is anything any new RV-A model pilot should hold dear to their heart it should be these words of wisdom!

Whenever on the ground, pull the stick into your gut and hold it there until the the plane comes to a complete stop or until the wheels leave the ground. There are circumstances where quartering winds may require some other inputs. Outside of those specific situations however, keep the stick pulled back and one will go a long way toward protecting the nose wheel.

[Bill Boyd]

Originally Posted by Radomir

that plane was going over.. nothing he could do about it...

I agree it was almost hopeless, Radomir. It might've been "textbook" to pull mixture to ICO at touchdown (no go-around option but no running prop-strike) and to dump flaps, but that's a handful of extra work when trying to get the gentlest possible nosewheel contact at the lowest possible speed. A paved runway if available would certainly have been my choice.

The one thing you do have time to do is cinch the belt and shoulder straps TIGHT. Chuck Hagerty and others have learned the painful way how vulnerable our C-spines are in a nose-over at low speed.

So glad this pilot walked away.

I can hear me now on the cell phone, circling in the pattern, "Jenny, I'd like to increase my ground not-in-motion coverage to full hull at $50k! Can you bind it like right now?"

[Mel]

Originally Posted by Bill Boyd

I can hear me now on the cell phone, circling in the pattern, "Jenny, I'd like to increase my ground not-in-motion coverage to full hull at $50k! Can you bind it like right now?"

Unfortunately I think this would be considered "in motion".

[Sam Buchanan]

Originally Posted by Bill Boyd

I can hear me now on the cell phone, circling in the pattern, "Jenny, I'd like to increase my ground not-in-motion coverage to full hull at $50k! Can you bind it like right now?"

Originally Posted by Mel

Unfortunately I think this would be considered "in motion".

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[sblack]

I think the best mitigation is to remove the nose gear, move the mains forward to a position ahead of the CG and put a little wheel below the rudder

And yes, I guess this constitutes kicking a guy when he is (upside) down, which is bad form, so I hope it is not taken too seriously. I do feel bad for him. That would really suck especially if he built the airplane. And he lives near me so he could come and punch me in the nose, which I hope he doesn't.

[Jesse]

I couldn't tell from the video whether or not he had an anti-splat nose job installed. Can anyone else tell (or does somebody know)?

[az_gila]

Originally Posted by Jesse

I couldn't tell from the video whether or not he had an anti-splat nose job installed. Can anyone else tell (or does somebody know)?

Doesn't look like it.

Blow up the video and you can see the remains of most of the gear leg fairing hanging - and trailing - just under the exhaust pipes. The bent leg looks "naked" with nothing attached to it.

[penguin]

Originally Posted by ty1295

By no means would I consider myself an RV pilot yet (builder yes), but based on my training, research and talking to well known RV pilot on here I know when it comes times to fly my A model, EVERY landing will be treated at soft field. Not just some.

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With all due respect, Jeff, you are being far too paranoid and giving all A models a bad name. I have been fly a nose dragger 6 since 2002, for 10 years without an anti-splat. Mostly its entirely routine. Grass field landings are not a big deal. I have landed on some rough grass fields and am still on my first nose-leg. Yes, by all means treat the airplane like a taildragger that happens to park itself level. But there is no need to become paranoid about every landing. Touching down on the mains every time will keep your stress levels low. I have touched the tail more times than I have landed nosewheel first.

[ty1295]

Originally Posted by penguin

With all due respect, Jeff, you are being far too paranoid and giving all A models a bad name. I have been fly a nose dragger 6 since 2002, for 10 years without an anti-splat. Mostly its entirely routine. Grass field landings are not a big deal. I have landed on some rough grass fields and am still on my first nose-leg. Yes, by all means treat the airplane like a taildragger that happens to park itself level. But there is no need to become paranoid about every landing. Touching down on the mains every time will keep your stress levels low. I have touched the tail more times than I have landed nosewheel first.

Cautious yes, not sure on paranoid though as I am building an A model myself and not scared of it, or flying in an A model.

I don't think its just Vans models any nose wheel just needs to be landed properly regardless of who or how its made.

[DaveO]

Do not believe that the Ant-Splat is a guarantee that all will be well.
I had the anti-splat on my nose gear and I turned it upside down. Nose wheel buckled anyway. It might have helped in a different situation. I did not get hurt either, for which I a thankful.
Dave.