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Old 08-08-2017, 10:45 PM
TrueAirSpeed TrueAirSpeed is offline
 
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Default Buy the empanage kit!

Try that first. It's a small bite of the elephant, but it'll give you a taste. Be sure and join your local EAA chapter and get to know other RV builders too.
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Old 08-09-2017, 03:15 AM
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Daniel,

Check your private messages please. Thank you.
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Old 08-09-2017, 06:21 AM
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You said you have a girlfriend who's eager to help. You should really have no issues. Good luck and thanks for your service.
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Old 08-09-2017, 07:11 AM
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Default Bucking rivets...

Like has been said, riveting is only a small part of what is involved in building an airplane.

But when it comes to bucking rivets solo, control is more important than strength.

Most of the rivets that you buck you will being doing blind. In other words you can't see both sides of the rivet at once. Usually it is the bucking bar side that you can't see, because you need your eyes on the gun side for proper placement of the rivet gun. You depend on feel and touch for the proper placement of the bucking bar over a rivet. Once you pull the trigger you depend on the feel, strength and control of the bucking bar hand to keep the bar in the right spot as it bounces on the shop side of the rivet.

A generous amount of duct tape over the corners of the bucking bar can help avoid damage to surrounding parts, if you loose control of the bucking bar. Bucking bars do want to wander!

You might explore a special hook attachment that made it so you could hold the rivet gun in your hook.

Of course a dedicated bucking partner makes this much easier for all of us. And some small percentage of the rivets require a bucking partner anyway.

Thank you for your service and sacrifice!

Good Luck, you'll have a blast!
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Old 08-09-2017, 08:18 AM
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My concern is I'd like to do the QUICKBUILD but I worry about being able to rivet with one arm and a prosthetic.
Contact Shayne McDaniel, co-builder (with son-in-law John Walker) of a beautiful RV-10, as well as several previous aircraft flown by himself and wife Phyllis. Shayne can tell you everything you want to know, from experience, and you'll enjoy speaking with him. Really nice fellow.

John is "Bluelabel" here in the forums. Send John a private message to get Shayne's contact info.

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Old 08-09-2017, 08:42 AM
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Yup. Like others have said before, it's mostly mental. I believe you have "the sickness" and are already one of us. Glad to have you aboard the good ship VAF, and thanks for your sacrifice.
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Old 08-09-2017, 10:13 AM
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Very possible! A prosthetic hand clamp may work better than one may think. There are a lot of 3/32 rivets in the empennage kit, they will set fairly easy. A flat bucking bar clamped in place with good control should work fine. Give it a try.

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Old 08-09-2017, 11:35 AM
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Contact Shayne McDaniel, co-builder (with son-in-law John Walker) of a beautiful RV-10, as well as several previous aircraft flown by himself and wife Phyllis. Shayne can tell you everything you want to know, from experience, and you'll enjoy speaking with him. Really nice fellow.

John is "Bluelabel" here in the forums. Send John a private message to get Shayne's contact info.

Welcome to the Borg network. You will be assimilated.
Was just about to chime in on this... Shayne is missing his left arm at the forearm. He has an "apparatus" as we call it. Spring loaded hook.. before our plane he built a Waiex, and 2 Zeniths, and is now finishing a 9A. Of course, Phyllis helps out too. But it's pretty amazing what he does with no help... he does have two advantages, grabbing hot pieces of metal, and no worries about drilling into his finger.

But yes, He would be a good person to talk to. He's on here, I'll find out his username.
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Old 08-09-2017, 12:00 PM
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Assuming you have a retired ID, you ought to shoot an email to someone in the Reserve refueling wing at McDill. I bet they'd be happy to have you over on a family day or similar to shoot some rivets.

In USAF parlance, I think you wanna talk to the Chief of the sheet metal shop in the 927th AMXG
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Old 08-09-2017, 12:36 PM
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he does have two advantages, grabbing hot pieces of metal, and no worries about drilling into his finger.

But yes, He would be a good person to talk to. He's on here, I'll find out his username.
So can he still get a Repairman's Certificate without a scar from drilling his hand to prove he built it?
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