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08-08-2017, 01:41 PM
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EFIS or SIX-PACK?
Could not find a thread on this, near the surface anyway, so starting a new one. Should be an interesting discussion. Putting it in the RV-12 forum since most of them have the capability to display either, but if it belongs somewhere else, moderators feel free to move it.
Whadda ya like:
Six-Pack (digital)
or EFIS:
The poll has a third option, vacuum analog, which probably won't see much action, but I could be wrong.
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08-08-2017, 02:43 PM
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It's a trick question Tony. BOTH of the pictures you show are EFIS displays - its just one has a "tape" format, and the other has a "round gauge" format.
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08-08-2017, 02:56 PM
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The six pack is horrible. I turned it on briefly as the new owner of my RV-10 is a real six pack, analog guy. He flew with it for one approach and quickly figured out just how much awareness he lost from that of the normal display. It never got turned on again.
I also fine the Highway in the Sky feature to be less than useful. It stays off as well.
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08-08-2017, 03:00 PM
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Of course, when I had my -12 it had the D180, so Six Pack wasn't even an option. I have a Skyview in the Sportsman and thought the concept was cool, but so far I have not even turned it on.
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08-08-2017, 03:46 PM
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I think the 6-pack makes the EFIS display way too cluttered. Synthetic Vision, Highway in the Sky are almost lost in the background. Having been a pilot of the 6-pack era, I am glad the glass cockpits are so prevalent.
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08-08-2017, 04:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironflight
It's a trick question Tony. BOTH of the pictures you show are EFIS displays - its just one has a "tape" format, and the other has a "round gauge" format.
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I know, but I'm just using the nomenclature that Dynon uses in the manuals.
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08-08-2017, 06:53 PM
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Initially, I missed the six pack style panel...now; no way would I go back. Much more info and easier to follow all aspects of flight..just my 2 cents!
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08-08-2017, 07:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phantom30
Initially, I missed the six pack style panel...now; no way would I go back. Much more info and easier to follow all aspects of flight..just my 2 cents!
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Agree with that. You eventually train yourself to know exactly where to look on the screen when you think airspeed, alt or... After several years with the Skyview format, when I sit in front of steam gauges it takes me a split second longer to find what I'm looking for.
I wonder if the folks who study this kind of thing have measured that phenomenon?
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08-08-2017, 07:45 PM
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Another bone of contention I have is the "drag foot approach" the FAA has to allowing the rest of the aging GA fleet to upgrade to this new technology "cheaply" using Garmin and Dynon style panels.
Who in their right mind would spend The $$$$ for TSO'ed equipment on an old piper or Cessna not worth much of anything. Would make all of us safer in the long run...
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08-08-2017, 08:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phantom30
Initially, I missed the six pack style panel...now; no way would I go back. Much more info and easier to follow all aspects of flight..just my 2 cents!
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Dynon made the six-pack display available while I was still building. Having only flown with steam gauges, I thought it would really make the transition to an efis easier for me. In the end there was no transition. After the first couple of flights I felt comfortable with the tape display, and still haven't got around to trying out the six-pack.
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