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07-24-2017, 04:49 PM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Martinsville, IN
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Yeah, and those of us that already have boxes in the field get the priveledge of donating $300 to Bill Moffet to get 2020 compliance that was already promised to us.
Oh yeah, they will only retrofit equipment if you order before December 31. They don't have any in stock and they are not making any until they fix all of the TSO units first... they feel the EXP guys have plenty of time before compliance is necessary.
Anyone want to buy an EXP for a good price? It works great and broadcasts SIL=3.
Don
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07-24-2017, 07:07 PM
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I think I'm good with the suggested fix if Navworx can come thru with it . I'm also good with the $300 if that can happen as advertised. Mine is one of the early ones. It may could have been done without all the turbulence but the Navworx 600EXP continues to work flawless for me. I get good traffic reporting and weather for VFR flying even though it apparently doesn't have 1090 ie Dual Band. I would hope that comes with some of the hardware or software upgrades. Sounds like the mod is going to be easy, And I don't have to rip out and replace. I'll support Navworx if they continue to work to pull this one out. The fact that they are present at OSH gives me some confidence.
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07-25-2017, 06:22 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2017
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Day one at Oshkosh was busy. We were three-deep with people at the booth most of the day. Thank you guys for coming to see us. We look forward to speaking with you all week.
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07-25-2017, 09:53 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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How about some sort of info release
David,
How about some sort of press release - highlights, future time-frames for software and features. A bunch of questions have been posed - mostly relevant to the new SB and upcoming software release to remediate the AD.....
Those of us that couldn't go are anxious to hear some positive information!
Thanks,
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07-25-2017, 10:39 AM
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Ralph, I believe there is the service bulletin I saw on the Navworx site which provides a bit more info as to dates for orders accepted and orders delivered on the EXP 600 fix . Think that's where I saw it.
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07-25-2017, 10:54 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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Yup - I got the two service bulletins downloaded already...they leave so many questions un-answered...yes, we asked them after the SB's came out...
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07-25-2017, 11:35 AM
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Join Date: May 2008
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David
Navworx position yesterday at the booth was that the FAA made the EXP box non compliant by changing the regs. I have found no evidence to support that in the revision history. Can you explain what changed? Specific regulatory citations would be very helpful in convincing us that Navworx is really a victim of the FAA.
Don
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07-25-2017, 11:47 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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If you look at the government website where they requested public comments on the proposed AD, it does show how the requirements were changed...initially, they would respond to all requests then they said this box has to be SIL=0, then they said we won't respond to SIL=0...or something like that....
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07-25-2017, 01:59 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dtw_rv6
David
Navworx position yesterday at the booth was that the FAA made the EXP box non compliant by changing the regs. I have found no evidence to support that in the revision history. Can you explain what changed? Specific regulatory citations would be very helpful in convincing us that Navworx is really a victim of the FAA.
Don
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In my experience, some of the regional offices (FSDO, mido) are horribly out of touch with official policy coming out of HQ in Washington. Yet they talk as if their words are gospel. I can cite several examples if you like. For something as serious as TSO compliance it is imperative that the manufacturer makes sure HQ is involved in the loop. It's too easy for one FSDO guy to say one thing, while HQ is saying something different. You know who will win in the end. Whose fault is this? I'd say the FAA doesn't have its house in order. But the reality is that large companies hire experienced help just to guide them thru the maze.
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07-25-2017, 02:15 PM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Martinsville, IN
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Can anyone site the reg that changed? The SIL requirement did not. Just the timeline for enforceing the higher integrity levels. If that is the bone being picked, then the box was doomed for the same fate before 2020, just at a later date. If someone can tell me what reg was "changed" then I might cut Navworx some slack.
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