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07-18-2017, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SmilingJack
Paul,
How do you like the fuel shut off?
Seems like an odd design.... down position turning fuel ON seems like a good failsafe, but it just seems a little wonky to have a push/pull type fuel valve.
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I never touched it - so Scott's comments (above) are more meaningful than what I might say.
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07-18-2017, 12:36 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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I was told today that the RV-12 can now be configured for a fuel injected engine, and that the fuel tank will now be part of the fuselage kit rather than the finishing kit.
Is the part of the RV-12is? (I'm assuming it is and that's what the "I" stands for).
It's not clear from your article what people who in the process of building an RV-12 should be doing. Van's was good enough to let me know today that they can ship the old fuselage kit now, or wait a few weeks for the new one (I hate carbs, I jumped at the chance), but I'm wondering whether any of these orther improvements are now to be standard or options and when they will be integrated into the existing ordering and delivery system.
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07-18-2017, 01:43 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Charlotte, NC
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I wonder when Vans will post the specs for the new version. I took a quick peak at their site today and didn't see any mention of it
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07-18-2017, 01:51 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hubbard Oregon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JwWright57
I wonder when Vans will post the specs for the new version. I took a quick peak at their site today and didn't see any mention of it
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http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...6&postcount=18
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07-18-2017, 03:45 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Bentonville, AR
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This is amazing - a lot of the improvements Van's has brought to the new model (such as the redesigned fuel tank, the stabilator tip fairings, and the extra landing/taxi lights) are modifications I've seen builders due to their own RV-12s. Add fuel injection into the package and it's pretty clear that this is a company that has decided to pay attention to what its customers want!
I'm still pretty sure the first plane I build is going to be an RV-7, but I've always thought that building a 12 would be fun. Looks like I'll have to build both now! 
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07-18-2017, 05:51 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Australia
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Is the alternator output of Rotax 912iS same as 912ULS?
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07-19-2017, 09:34 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2012
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Wait....someone here said it was impossible to put a 912 IS on a RV12 many moons ago....
Now the 100k question is when you hit TBO, what will the cost all in be to get a new IS, new cowling, new flap set up, new fuel tank....or can you even modify an existing RV-12 airframe with a 912ULS flying to do this? Looking at the cockpit pics I'm wondering if you can even mod an existing center section?
My ballpark is 8-10k extra over and above....YMMV
http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/rv12iS_whats-new.htm
I mean pre-bent longerons and a cup holder....dram....
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07-19-2017, 10:27 AM
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I'm not sure I am sold on the throttle location. With a slightly oversized pilot and passenger in the seats, it looks like there is going to be some arm to arm or other body parts contact in working the throttle.
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07-19-2017, 10:42 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Martinsville, IN
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TomVal
I'm not sure I am sold on the throttle location. With a slightly oversized pilot and passenger in the seats, it looks like there is going to be some arm to arm or other body parts contact in working the throttle.
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I'm with you on this one. I had a hard enough time grabbing the flap handle. I can't imagine a center console. I also liked being able to put my feet on the passenger floor and stretching out. Overall though, good job Van's.
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07-19-2017, 10:44 AM
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VAF Moderator / Line Boy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TomVal
I'm not sure I am sold on the throttle location. With a slightly oversized pilot and passenger in the seats, it looks like there is going to be some arm to arm or other body parts contact in working the throttle.
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You probably need to sit in one and try it for yourself, but I think it is far enough forward for that not to be a real problem. I am average sized, and I was flying with Rian Johnson, Van's Chief Engineer, who is smaller than I am - and we didn't have any interference. I have flown a number of similarly sized and configured airplanes and haven't noticed a problem either.
But two huge guys - well, you might be over gross anyway.... 
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RV-8 - N188PD - "Valkyrie"
RV-6 (By Marriage) - N164MS - "Mikey"
RV-3B - N13PL - "Tsamsiyu"
A&P, EAA Tech Counselor/Flight Advisor
Dayton Valley Airpark (A34)
http://Ironflight.com
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