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07-18-2017, 08:24 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hubbard Oregon
Posts: 9,026
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Originally Posted by mwardle7
Unless the extra weight was magically absorbed by weight savings elsewhere, I think I would prefer the original version.
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Originally Posted by RVbySDI
Well, replacing the Odyssey with the EarthX battery is going to come pretty close to "magically absorbing" the extra weight.
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Exactly
I am still amazed how light the EarthX battery is. It helped eat up a good majority of the weight increase that resulted from installing the different engine.
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Van's Aircraft Engineering Prototype Shop Manager
Hubbard, Oregon
RV-6A (aka "Junkyard Special ")
Last edited by rvbuilder2002 : 07-18-2017 at 10:45 AM.
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07-18-2017, 09:02 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Utah
Posts: 81
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Originally Posted by rvbuilder2002
....but using the original wings tail cone and empenage.
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Bummer. I wish they would have taken the opportunity to make the stabilator 6 inches narrower so that you could actually load the airplane into an enclosed trailer. |
07-18-2017, 10:44 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hubbard Oregon
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Originally Posted by mwardle7
Bummer. I wish they would have taken the opportunity to make the stabilator 6 inches narrower so that you could actually load the airplane into an enclosed trailer.
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There are a number of owners that already haul there RV-12 in an enclosed trailer. It just depends on what trailer you use.......
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Scott McDaniels
Van's Aircraft Engineering Prototype Shop Manager
Hubbard, Oregon
RV-6A (aka "Junkyard Special ")
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07-18-2017, 12:05 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Garden City, Tx
Posts: 5,118
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Scott - considering the lingering concerns with the EarthX battery and the charging system, can you share some insight on how that is addressed in the 12?
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Greg Niehues - SEL, IFR, Repairman Cert.
Garden City, TX VAF 2020 dues paid 
N16GN flying 700 hrs and counting; IO360, SDS, WWRV200, Dynon HDX, 430W
Built an off-plan RV9A with too much fuel and too much HP. Should drop dead any minute now. 
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07-18-2017, 12:30 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Clearwater, Florida
Posts: 398
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Does anybody know what the fuel capacity is for the redesigned fuel tank?
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07-18-2017, 12:44 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
Posts: 188
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I have replaced my batteries on motorbikes with lithiums, they crack way better and the first time I got one shipped I honestly thought they shipped an empty box they are ridiculously light compared to the equivalent.
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07-18-2017, 12:50 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hubbard Oregon
Posts: 9,026
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Originally Posted by airguy
Scott - considering the lingering concerns with the EarthX battery and the charging system, can you share some insight on how that is addressed in the 12?
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You would have to fill me in on what concerns you are talking about.
EarthX and Rotax have been in communication and my understanding is that Rotax now supports/endorses the use of there battery with an iS installation.
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Opinions, information and comments are my own unless stated otherwise. They do not necessarily represent the direction/opinions of my employer.
Scott McDaniels
Van's Aircraft Engineering Prototype Shop Manager
Hubbard, Oregon
RV-6A (aka "Junkyard Special ")
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07-18-2017, 12:56 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hubbard Oregon
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Originally Posted by Driftdown
Does anybody know what the fuel capacity is for the redesigned fuel tank?
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There will be a lot of info published / posted very soon that will answer all of these types of questions (everyone has been a little busy with other priorities.... we built, painted and completed a first flight of the iS prototype in 10 weeks... start to finish)
Unofficially, the new tank capacity is 20.2 gal.
There was no goal to increase capacity because the better fuel economy of the iS provides more range on the same amount of fuel.
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Opinions, information and comments are my own unless stated otherwise. They do not necessarily represent the direction/opinions of my employer.
Scott McDaniels
Van's Aircraft Engineering Prototype Shop Manager
Hubbard, Oregon
RV-6A (aka "Junkyard Special ")
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07-18-2017, 01:04 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: St. Paul, MN.
Posts: 4,792
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Not having fuel injection was one of the (few) things that bummed me out about the RV-12.
I ordered the fuselage kit a few weeks ago -- because this thing is going together so darned fast!! -- and Van's contacted me today to say that I could either get the existing fuse now or wait a few weeks for the new fuselage kit, which is when you have to decide which model you want.
Fuel injection? Oh, yes, please.
The fuel tank will now be included in the fuselage kit instead of the finishing kit -- good, I can get it done before trying to get ProSeal to cure when it's 10 degrees (now the only thing slowing me down is that at the rate I'm going, I'd be getting to the canopy in the winter. Nope. I'll wait til summer, I guess).
Price of fuse kit goes to around $6300 (currently $5780). I don't know if there is a corresponding reduction in the finishing kit.
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07-18-2017, 02:11 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: St. Paul, MN.
Posts: 4,792
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Originally Posted by rvbuilder2002
There will be a lot of info published / posted very soon that will answer all of these types of questions (everyone has been a little busy with other priorities.... we built, painted and completed a first flight of the iS prototype in 10 weeks... start to finish)
Unofficially, the new tank capacity is 20.2 gal.
There was no goal to increase capacity because the better fuel economy of the iS provides more range on the same amount of fuel.
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I've always wondered this: When you build a plane, how many people actually work on the building process? |
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